Definitely did not mean over shared!! I meant you exceeded expectations. Your first post was excellent and you provided a lot of useful information!!!

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So far, I’ve found the following list of things to investigate further. Because I don’t have a diagnosis, my goal would be to try things that can do no harm but might possibly help.

And now to go listen to the two Attia podcasts that were shared.

Trulicity

SGLT2

Ecklonia cava

Proline

Rapa

Glp1

Ezetimibe

It’s hard to find anything that has no possible downside.

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Two more supplements to consider:

Omega-3 DHA

CDP-Choline

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Thanks for adding to the list!! I take algae omega but I’ll add choline to my list of things to research! Thx again!

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I’ve been adding any news I see on Alz / dementia prevention or risk minimization approaches to this thread: Predicting Alzheimers (and minimizing risk)

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Appreciate this!

Feel free to move my question over there if it helps anything

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There is a treasure trove of information at apoe4.info

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Already finding exceptional info… thx for this resource !

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Homotaurine is available as a supplement in Europe.

ApoE4
Subgroup analyses of the two phase 3 trials reported a gene-dose effect with tramiprosate, showing no cognitive effect in ApoE4 non-carriers, intermediate benefits in ApoE4 heterozygotes, and the greatest cognitive benefit in ApoE4 homozygotes. In addition, patients on the higher dose of tramiprosate (150mg bid) and with mild (vs. moderate) Alzheimer have responded better to the drug. In fact, cognition in mild Alzheimer’s ApoE4 homozygotes stabilized with tramiprosate and was 40% better than placebo, which the authors claim is clinically meaningful. The authors speculate that since tramiprosate’s mechanism of action is to prevent amyloid aggregation, and since ApoE4 patients have a higher amyloid burden, it would be most beneficial in this group.

This is a prodrug of homotaurine, a modified amino acid previously developed under the names tramiprosate and Alzhemed™. ALZ-801 is converted to homotaurine in vivo, but is more easily absorbed and lasts longer in the blood than tramiprosate.

Tramiprosate was reported to inhibit Aβ42 aggregation into toxic oligomers (Gervais et al., 2007; Kocis et al., 2017). Both ALZ-801 and tramiprosate are metabolized to 3-sulfopranpanoic acid (3-SPA), which is normally found in brain and also inhibits Aβ42 aggregation (Hey et al., 2018). A more recent study found that homotaurine activates GABA receptors, and suggests an alternative mechanism of action for ALZ-801 (Meera et al., 2023). After tramiprosate failed in Phase 3, its maker, NeuroChem, marketed it as a nutritional supplement. Years later, a subgroup analysis of the trial data indicated a potential positive effect in participants who carried two copies of ApoE4 (Abushakra et al., 2016; Abushakra et al., 2017). Alzheon licensed ALZ-801 from NeuroChem and is developing it for Alzheimer’s disease.
ALZ-801 | ALZFORUM

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Homotaurine is a potential therapeutic compound for treatment of Alzheimer’s disease (AD), but its efficacy is still under investigation. Emerging data have shown that other than neuroprotective, homotaurine is endowed with anti-inflammatory activities, though with still unclear underlying mechanisms. Inflammation plays a critical role in the pathogenesis of AD and we previously suggested that homotaurine supplementation in patients with amnestic mild cognitive impairment (MCI) plays beneficial effects associated to a decrease in the circulating levels of the pro-inflammatory cytokine IL-18. Here we report that MCI patients supplemented with homotaurine for 12 months show elevated serum levels of IL-10 and IL-33, as compared to baseline, in addition to the described IL-18 decrease. Furthermore, we observed a significant positive correlation between IL-10 and IL-33 levels after treatment but not at the baseline, underlining the effectiveness of the compound in modulating both cytokines in an inter-related fashion and in regulating the pro/anti-inflammation balance. Furthermore, the elevation of both IL-10 and IL-33 is significantly associated with an improvement of episodic memory of treated patients, as measured by the Delayed Verbal Ray Test. In conclusion, our results confirm that homotaurine treatment exerts an overall anti-inflammatory action in MCI patients, based not only on the down-regulation of pro-inflammatory IL-18, but also on up-regulation of the anti-inflammatory IL-33 and IL-10 cytokines, which in turn are associated with an amelioration of patient’s cognitive functions. Future studies should be addressed to investigate the molecular mechanisms of homotaurine anti-inflammatory activity and its therapeutic exploitation in early AD.

Alzheimer’s disease (AD) is the most prevalent neurodegenerative condition, especially among elderly people. The presence of cortical β-amyloid deposition, together with tau phosphorylation and intracellular accumulation of neurofibrillary tangles (NFT) is the main neuropathologic criteria for AD diagnosis. Additionally, a role of inflammatory, mitochondrial, and metabolic factors has been suggested. Tramiprosate binds to soluble amyloid, thus inhibiting its aggregation in the brain. It reduced oligomeric and fibrillar (plaque) amyloid, diminished hippocampal atrophy, improved cholinergic transmission, and stabilized cognition in preclinical and clinical studies. In this narrative review, current information on the efficacy and safety of tramiprosate, both in AD and in other neurocognitive disorders, is presented. Possible directions for future studies with tramiprosate are also discussed.

Alzheimer’s disease (AD) is a fatal dementing neurodegenerative disease, currently lacking an efficacious disease-modifying therapy. In the last years, there has been some interest in the use of homotaurine as a potential therapeutic compound for AD, but more work is still needed to prove its efficacy as disease modifier in dementia. Since inflammation is believed to play a key role in AD development, we sought to investigate here the in vivo homotaurine effect on inflammatory response in patients at the earliest stages of AD, i.e., suffering from amnestic mild cognitive impairment (aMCI). Thus, the present study aims to evaluate the effects of homotaurine supplementation on cytokine serum levels and memory performances in MCI patients. Neuropsychological, clinical and cytokine assessment was performed at baseline (T0) and after 1 year (T12) of homotaurine supplementation in 20 patients categorized as carriers (n = 9) or no carriers (n = 11) of the ε4 allele of the apolipoprotein E (APOE) gene, the strongest genetic risk factor for AD. The serum levels of the pro-inflammatory mediators Interleukin (IL) 1β, Tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNFα), IL-6 and IL-18, contextually with the anti-inflammatory molecules IL-18 binding protein (IL-18BP) and Transforming growth factor-beta (TGFβ), were analyzed to explore significant differences in the inflammatory status between T0 and T12 in the two APOE variant carrier groups. No significant differences over time were observed in patients as for most cytokines, except for IL-18. Following homotaurine supplementation, patients carrying the APOEε4 allele showed a significant decrease in IL-18 (both in its total and IL-18BP unbound forms), in turn associated with improved short-term episodic memory performance as measured by the recency effect of the Rey 15-word list learning test immediate recall. Thus, homotaurine supplementation in individuals with aMCI may have a positive consequence on episodic memory loss due, at least in part, to homotaurine anti-inflammatory effects. This study strongly suggests that future research should focus on exploring the mechanisms by which homotaurine controls brain inflammation during AD progression.

Dementia and autoimmune diseases are prevalent conditions with limited treatment options. Taurine and homotaurine (HT) are naturally occurring sulfonate amino acids, with taurine being highly abundant in animal tissues, but declining with age in the blood. HT is a blood-brain barrier permeable drug under investigation for Alzheimer’s disease. HT also has beneficial effects in a mouse model of multiple sclerosis likely through an anti-inflammatory mechanism mediated by GABAA receptor (GABAAR) agonism in immune cells. While both taurine and HT are structural GABA analogs and thought to be GABA mimetics at GABAARs, there is uncertainty concerning their potency as GABA mimetics on native GABAARs. We show that HT is a very potent GABA mimetic, as it evokes GABAAR-mediated currents with an EC50 of 0.4 μM (vs. 3.7 μM for GABA and 116 µM for taurine) in murine cerebellar granule cells in brain slices, with both taurine and HT having similar efficacy in activating native GABAARs. Furthermore, HT displaces the high affinity GABAAR ligand [3H]muscimol at similarly low concentrations (HT IC50 of 0.16 μM vs. 125 μM for taurine) in mouse brain homogenates. The potency of taurine and HT as GABAAR agonists aligns with endogenous concentrations of taurine in the blood and with HT concentrations achieved in the brain following oral administration of HT or the HT pro-drug ALZ-801. Consequently, we discuss that GABAARs subtypes, similar to the ones we studied here in neurons, are plausible targets for mediating the potential beneficial effects of taurine in health and life-span extension and the beneficial HT effects in dementia and autoimmune conditions.

Background: Alzheimer’s Disease (AD) patients homozygous for the APOE4 allele (APOE4/4) have a distinct clinical and biological phenotype with high levels of beta amyloid (Aβ) pathology and toxic Aβ oligomers. Tramiprosate, an oral agent that inhibits Aβ monomer aggregation into toxic oligomers, was evaluated in two Phase 3 Mild to Moderate AD studies which did not show efficacy in the overall population. Re-analyses of these trials showed the most consistent clinical benefits in APOE4/4 patients. We analyzed efficacy in the APOE4/4 patients with Mild disease.
Objectives: To determine the optimal stage of AD for future trials in APOE4/4 homozygotes.
Design: Two randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled parallel-arm multi-center studies of 78-weeks duration.
Setting: Academic Alzheimer’s disease centers, community-based memory clinics, and neuropsychiatric research sites.
Participants: Participants included 2,025 AD patients with MMSE 16-26. Approximately 13-15% had APOE4/4 genotype (N= 147 and 110 per study), mean age 71.1 years, 56% females. Almost all were on stable symptomatic drugs.
Intervention: Randomized subjects received oral placebo, 100mg BID, or 150mg BID of tramiprosate.
Measurements: Co-primary outcomes were change from baseline in the ADAS-cog11 and CDR-SB. Disability assessment for dementia (DAD) was a secondary outcome.
Results: In APOE4/4 homozygotes receiving 150mg BID tramiprosate, efficacy in the traditional Mild AD patients (MMSE 20-26) was higher than the overall group (MMSE 16-26) and efficacy in the Mild patients (MMSE 22-26) was highest. Tramiprosate benefits compared to placebo on ADAS-cog, CDR-SB, and DAD were 125%, 81% and 71%, respectively (p<0.02). The Mild subgroup (MMSE 22-26) showed cognitive stabilization with no decline over 78 weeks, both ADAS-cog and DAD effects increased over time. Tramiprosate safety in APOE4/4 patients was favorable. Most common adverse events were nausea, vomiting, depression and decreased weight.
Conclusions: The Mild subgroup of APOE4/4 AD patients (MMSE 22-26) showed larger benefits on the high dose of tramiprosate than the overall Mild and Moderate group. Consistent with its preclinical effects on Aβ oligomers, tramiprosate seemed to stabilize cognitive performance, supporting its disease modification potential. Confirmatory studies using ALZ-801, an improved pro-drug formulation of tramiprosate, will target APOE4/4 patients with Mild AD.

Background

Apolipoprotein E (ApoE) ε4 genotype is the most prevalent risk factor for late-onset Alzheimer’s Disease (AD). Although ApoE4 differs from its non-pathological ApoE3 isoform only by the C112R mutation, the molecular mechanism of its proteinopathy is unknown.

Methods

Here, we reveal the molecular mechanism of ApoE4 aggregation using a combination of experimental and computational techniques, including X-ray crystallography, site-directed mutagenesis, hydrogen-deuterium mass spectrometry (HDX-MS), static light scattering and molecular dynamics simulations. Treatment of ApoE ε3/ε3 and ε4/ε4 cerebral organoids with tramiprosate was used to compare the effect of tramiprosate on ApoE4 aggregation at the cellular level.

Results

We found that C112R substitution in ApoE4 induces long-distance (> 15 Å) conformational changes leading to the formation of a V-shaped dimeric unit that is geometrically different and more aggregation-prone than the ApoE3 structure. AD drug candidate tramiprosate and its metabolite 3-sulfopropanoic acid induce ApoE3-like conformational behavior in ApoE4 and reduce its aggregation propensity. Analysis of ApoE ε4/ε4 cerebral organoids treated with tramiprosate revealed its effect on cholesteryl esters, the storage products of excess cholesterol.

Conclusions

Our results connect the ApoE4 structure with its aggregation propensity, providing a new druggable target for neurodegeneration and ageing.

Amyloid beta (Aβ) oligomers play a critical role in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer’s disease (AD) and represent a promising target for drug development. Tramiprosate is a small-molecule Aβ anti-aggregation agent that was evaluated in phase III clinical trials for AD but did not meet the primary efficacy endpoints; however, a pre-specified subgroup analysis revealed robust, sustained, and clinically meaningful cognitive and functional effects in patients with AD homozygous for the ε4 allele of apolipoprotein E4 (APOE4/4 homozygotes), who carry an increased risk for the disease. Therefore, to build on this important efficacy attribute and to further improve its pharmaceutical properties, we have developed a prodrug of tramiprosate ALZ-801 that is in advanced stages of clinical development. To elucidate how tramiprosate works, we investigated its molecular mechanism of action (MOA) and the translation to observed clinical outcomes.

Objective

The two main objectives of this research were to (1) elucidate and characterize the MOA of tramiprosate via an integrated application of three independent molecular methodologies and (2) present an integrated translational analysis that links the MOA, conformation of the target, stoichiometry, and pharmacokinetic dose exposure to the observed clinical outcome in APOE4/4 homozygote subjects.

Method

We used three molecular analytical methods—ion mobility spectrometry–mass spectrometry (IMS–MS), nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR), and molecular dynamics—to characterize the concentration-related interactions of tramiprosate versus Aβ42 monomers and the resultant conformational alterations affecting aggregation into oligomers. The molecular stoichiometry of the tramiprosate versus Aβ42 interaction was further analyzed in the context of clinical pharmacokinetic dose exposure and central nervous system Aβ42 levels (i.e., pharmacokinetic–pharmacodynamic translation in humans).

Results

We observed a multi-ligand interaction of tramiprosate with monomeric Aβ42, which differs from the traditional 1:1 binding. This resulted in the stabilization of Aβ42 monomers and inhibition of oligomer formation and elongation, as demonstrated by IMS–MS and molecular dynamics. Using NMR spectroscopy and molecular dynamics, we also showed that tramiprosate bound to Lys16, Lys28, and Asp23, the key amino acid side chains of Aβ42 that are responsible for both conformational seed formation and neuronal toxicity. The projected molar excess of tramiprosate versus Aβ42 in humans using the dose effective in patients with AD aligned with the molecular stoichiometry of the interaction, providing a clear clinical translation of the MOA. A consistent alignment of these preclinical-to-clinical elements describes a unique example of translational medicine and supports the efficacy seen in symptomatic patients with AD. This unique “enveloping mechanism” of tramiprosate also provides a potential basis for tramiprosate dose selection for patients with homozygous AD at earlier stages of disease.

Conclusion

We have identified the molecular mechanism that may account for the observed clinical efficacy of tramiprosate in patients with APOE4/4 homozygous AD. In addition, the integrated application of the molecular methodologies (i.e., IMS-MS, NMR, and thermodynamics analysis) indicates that it is feasible to modulate and control the Aβ42 conformational dynamics landscape by a small molecule, resulting in a favorable Aβ42 conformational change that leads to a clinically relevant amyloid anti-aggregation effect and inhibition of oligomer formation. This novel enveloping MOA of tramiprosate has potential utility in the development of disease-modifying therapies for AD and other neurodegenerative diseases caused by misfolded proteins

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@Beth +1 on checking out Dr. Rhonda Patrick. As a result of her e4/e4, a great deal of her focus is on Alzheimer’s, etc. You can find it all at found my fitness (her site). There is a lot there but I know that Omega 3 supplementation is emphasized.

25 years ago, testing told me I was E3/E4.
More recent full genome testing said I am E3/E3.
I repeated the test and it again came back 3/3.
So… all those years of extra concern.
Don’t know if repeat testing is worthwhile for you ?
You might want to look at the following web site.
ApoE4.Info Wiki

I suggest you, read " The End of Alzheimer’s " by Dale Bredesen, MD

https://www.clevelandheartlab.com › blog › choline-tmao-heart-health

Choline, TMAO and Heart Health - Cleveland HeartLab, Inc.

Choline, TMAO and Heart Health. Cleveland Heartlab May 8, 2017 TMAO. Powerful new evidence from the Cleveland Clinic confirms a link between choline, a nutrient naturally found in foods like red meat, egg yolks and dairy products, and the risk of dangerous blood clotting.

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Kaplan–Meier curves were generated from Alzheimer’s dementia cases and cognitively unimpaired non-AD controls in the neuropathologically confirmed group. Y-axis represents the percentage of persons with each APOE genotype in the neuropathologically confirmed group who remained free from Alzheimer’s dementia. X-axis denotes age at death for controls and age at onset of cases, while replacing with age at death when age at onset was unavailable.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-14279-8

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Increase of incidence of cholesterol hyperabsorption which for example ezetimibe help with if the case and reducing cholesterol consumption.


https://www.lipidjournal.com/article/S1933-2874(15)00364-5/fulltext

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@Cohen @AnUser @BarryAllen @ngleason
I was out of pocket for a few days and delighted to come back to find that you’ve shared so much great information!

I thank all of you so much for your effort!!

I’ll be reading through all of this today

Thx again!

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There is emerging evidence that the live herpes zoster (shingles) vaccine might protect against dementia. However, the existing data are limited and refer only to the live vaccine, which is now discontinued in the United States and many other countries in favor of a recombinant vaccine. Whether the recombinant shingles vaccine protects against dementia remains unknown. Here we used a natural experiment opportunity created by the rapid transition from the use of live to the use of recombinant vaccines to compare the risk of dementia between vaccine types. We show that the recombinant vaccine is associated with a significantly lower risk of dementia in the 6 years post-vaccination. Specifically, receiving the recombinant vaccine is associated with a 17% increase in diagnosis-free time, translating into 164 additional days lived without a diagnosis of dementia in those subsequently affected. The recombinant shingles vaccine was also associated with lower risks of dementia than were two other vaccines commonly used in older people: influenza and tetanus–diphtheria–pertussis vaccines. The effect was robust across multiple secondary analyses, and was present in both men and women but was greater in women. These findings should stimulate studies investigating the mechanisms underpinning the protection and could facilitate the design of a large-scale randomized control trial to confirm the possible additional benefit of the recombinant shingles vaccine.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03201-5

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