Beth
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I just saw that Bryan is on the latest episode of Club Random (Bill Maher’s podcast).
I always learn from Maher, even when I vehemently disagree with him.
He’s into health, so I look forward to seeing if anything interesting comes out of this conversation. It’s hard to know because his podcast, unlike his other show, is rarely informative.
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All I see on my Facebook is Bryan Johnson ads shilling his latest supplement… drink… assessment or whatever. Damn he is annoying.
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I don’t want to comment on something I don’t know too much about but there is one thing that greatly reduced my trust in Bryan being honest and transparent. That’s the fact that he apparently declined having his epigenetic age independently tested by Steve Horvath, and also by someone else, if I recall. That’s suspicious because if he wanted to gain trust he should have taken the offer. Why else would he decline an offer like that if not to hide something. 
The benefits of taking that offer are obvious for his image and credibility.
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The problem with independent testing is that you cannot do multiple tests and pick the best one.
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Exactly! By declining, he is basically strongly implying that that’s what he is doing, and that also makes everything else he shares skeptical.
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On this issue I agree with you. My two big issues with Bryan Johnson are using botox and hair dye. Neither of those deal with the underlying biochemistry of aging.
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jnorm
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Thanks for sharing @Olafurpall
On a related note, Matt Kaeberlein also offered to debate him recently at the Vitality Bay conference they both attended. Bryan Johnson not taking up this offer just adds to the list of things that make me question his integrity.
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Smart of Bryan… Matt did a podcast recently… descimating Bryan and his methods at arriving at irrefutable scientific facts on aging.
You can tell Matt doesn’t care for him… and the hatchet job Bryan did on rapamycin.
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AnUser
#69
That sounds like speculation.
Moreover, during that meeting, BJ’s team wanted to discuss the Rejuvenation Olympics with Horvath, as reported in Vício . To me, it seemed he was interested in talking about his venture. So it wasn’t just a case of declining.
Horvath, whose team discovered the epigenetic clock and who now works at Altos Labs with Levine, offered to re-analyze Johnson’s data to “validate the claims surrounding epigenetic rejuvenation” and look at other biomarkers. "My philosophy: strong claims require strong evidence,” Horvath wrote. But Johnson’s team declined, instead requesting to talk about his new venture, the Rejuvenation Olympics, in which people can upload their epigenetic aging test and compete with one another for the slowest rate of growing old, according to a publicly available algorithm.
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He is networking with rich and influential people. I really hope he pushes them to fund research, not just buy supplements/treatments.
Bryan is always talking about how “we are on the cusp of longevity and AI breakthroughs which will extend human lifespan”, so it is very strange to me that he isn’t pushing that specifically. I feel like people need to reach out to him and really hammer that point across. But like I said earlier he is talking to a lot of influential people and we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes. I would love if he was laying the groundwork for something big in terms of funding research.
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