EnrQay
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the mitochondria in stressed neurons were using vesicles — bubblelike containers that move materials around the cell or between cells — to carry a signal called Wnt beyond the nerve cells to other cells in the body
The germline receives these signals:
As long as the germ cells are healthy, they send pro-survival signals to ensure that their host organism survives to reproduce
This turns on its head the dogma that longevity and reproduction are, loosely speaking, inversely related both evolutionarily and for the individual. It might even indicate that keeping the germ lines healthy, such as rapamycin seems to do with ovaries, preserves this signalling and enhances longevity.
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This is very cool! The closest thing to it I ever read was many years ago about how bacterial colonies colonizing different non-contiguous regions of the skin could communicate with each other, using our immune system as a carrier / vehicle. It was mind blowing.
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It does make me wonder though, that women have higher lifespan than men even though they run out of germ cells altogether whereas men don’t.
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Men don’t have estrogen protecting them from plaque accumulation until their late 40s 
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This would also explain why aging in women seems to accelerate with menopause, and how pausing menopause may increase lifespan and healthspan in women.
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medaura
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I don’t see any way to pause menopause though, only slow it down. Ovarian reserve keeps dwindling and only the rate can be slowed down. If you know anything otherwise in this field I’m all ears.
Just the work that Yusin Sun at Colombia U. is doing with rapamycin, and Oviva… perhaps combined they may provide some temporary pausing of menopause or revitalization of the ovary… O maior avanço na longevidade pode começar com a menopausa
I don’t think women run out of eggs, they just quit maturing.
medaura
#10
They do run out not because they “lay” them during ovulation but because the eggs get resorbed by the body. They do disappear though.
Ok, thanks … I didn’t know that.
All the other eggs present in that cycle’s group that haven’t been selected as the dominant follicle undergo atresia, which means that they die. This happens every month. You ovulate one egg, and the rest of the growing cohort or group die.
medaura
#12
Yeah, I wonder what my reserve is as I’ve stopped ovulating at 25 from my first pregnancy and had 4 kids in total roughly two years apart, with over a year of breastfeeding in between for each of them, which also halts ovulation. All things equal based on these factors I should have a higher ovarian reserve now that I’m 37 compared to a 37 yo woman who never had kids. But it’s hard to quantify.
EnrQay
#13
Men on rapamycin also have changes to fertility.
The post goes on to support the idea that these negatives reverse once rapamycin is discontinued, but I wonder if those negatives aren’t actually a result of preservation of the male germ lines. Any thoughts?
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So, you’re suggesting that (like in women with eggs) you’re just pausing spermatogenesis, and therefore maintaining fertility for longer. That seems like an entirely plausible explanation for the temporary fertility decrease during rapamycin use, very similar to what is seen with caloric restriction. Basically the body is pausing sexual reproduction during “fasting” times, and prioritizing survival and autophagy/maintenance, for better times.
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EnrQay
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Yes, and you said it so much better than I could. This is just speculation, and I haven’t seen any possible research on this.
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Very interesting. Perhaps it’s not a (Dawkins) selfish gene thing but a mitochondria using our genome to help its own genome to survive indefinitely.
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J0hn
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Love that idea
, maybe that’s why the age at menarche has fallen in industrialized countries, could it be due to an abundance of nutrients ?