LaraPo
#203
I do the same - add a tablespoon of organic cacao powder from Costco to my coffee or smoothie.
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Ditto, though I don’t get up as high as 20g. Same brand.
Interesting factoid: cacao polyphenols last a long time (years), so the powder doesn’t really lose potency, unlike fruit powders, such as blueberry extract powders which lose potency extremely fast. Most OLE (Olive Leaf Extracts) on the market are worthless, because drying and processing the leafs is very tricky (not done properly loses over 90% of the polyphenols and rarely done properly, and then the polyphenols last a very short time in storage. I couldn’t trust commercial OLE supplements, so used to make my own olive leaf powder from my olive trees (which grow well in SoCal!), but eventually stopped as it’s too much work. Bottom line, if you get a good deal on a large bag of cacao (from a good brand!), you don’t need to worry it’ll go bad (just store it in a dry, cool, dark space).
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Nick1
#205
We have bunch of mature olive trees which are really for shade and perennial admiration
Never had time/motivation to do anything with the olives that simply drop each year owing to competing priorities.
Things are easing up so I wonder how do you make olive leaf extract? Or, if convenient you could direct me to a good link/youtube vid.
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I did that years ago, basically developed my own protocol based on a bunch of papers, so I never looked up yt videos or how random people do it. So I just now googled to see what’s out there - I don’t usually rely on AI, but I looked over this one, and admittedly it looks solid, so I’ve included a screenshot with the instuctions (there are links for the various steps, but you can ignore those, it’s the result that counts). Key points to emphasize: do not use high temps in drying, because this is what most commercial producers do (most: about 99%), and it destroys the polyphenols, so right off the bat you’ve lost 99%. Frankly, I used only room temperature spreading them over a sheet - but you have to control the moisture in the air, keep it dry (yes, a pain in the behind).
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hamtaro
#207
Dangit, I wish I read that before purchasing the olive Leaf Extract from Amazon.
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hamtaro
#208
While I do use powder, I think its also important to eat cacao nibs in moderation which include the cacao butter, which is the best source available for stearic acid. Its benefits are impressive.
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Nick1
#209
A follow-up question- how do you dose it? Do you sprinkle it on salad etc?
When I made my own powder, I put it in my 1-cup (so not much liquid) chamomile based “night drink” (which had a few things in it, like glycine) which I would gulp down around 10pm before bed. On its own it’s pretty foul tasting so sprinkling it on salads or whatnot would just spoil the taste of whatever it’s on.
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Powe
#211
I have used the CocoaVia powder in the COSMOS trial for several years. I too saw a possible reduction in hsCRP, though a very small one. I had observed a very small rise in hsCRP with increasing age and had just begun to cross over occasionally into the bottom of the category one up from “low”. I have too few data points after starting Cocoavia to draw any meaningful conclusions before Long Covid intervened and confounded my analysis. I use it in my nut or skim milk coffee “lattes”. Delicious, no risk of heavy metals or other contaminants that are often in chocolates, and some positive potential longevity benefit. An expensive cocoa replacement, which may, however, have some meaningful benefits.
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Dietary flavanols preserve upper- and lower-limb endothelial function during sitting in high- and low-fit young healthy males
Source Paper (open access):
https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1113/JP289038
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Agetron
#214
And now this… theobromine
Going to go get my daily Dark Chocolate fix right now.
Laderach Swiss Blackberry Dark Chocolate - I picked up in Berlin, Germany a few weeks ago. Like crack… so addicted. Have been eating for past 6 years. Not cheap… but heaven.
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Beth
#215
I just went to their website and if their stuff is even half as good as it looks……
I’m now on the hunt to order some!
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Agetron
#216
Yes, they have 277 stores in the USA.
Boston, Washington DC, Frisco, San Diego, Minneapolis… etc.
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Bicep
#217
Nothing in Correctionville…
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“Theobromine in moderate amounts also improves mood and lowers blood pressure. (2) Cocoa and chocolate are also very high in potassium, adding to their potential to help lower blood pressure.”
"The team also investigated whether other cocoa or coffee metabolites showed similar patterns. Their results suggested that theobromine was the only compound with this specific association."
If you are just interested in the theobromine without the calories - theobromine supplements from Amazon are cheaper way to get the theobromine and skip the calories.
How to estimate how much theobromine you are getting by reading the label.
Top 10 Chocolate Products Highest in Theobromine
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Agetron
#219
Hahaha Phred - TBH you are pretty close to the middle of nowhere.
Correctionville - what a name for a city… could be a great place for a penitentiary. Move the one at Fort Dodge.
Sioux City is your only hope for a future shop.
Beth
#220
Sigh, the shipping was half the cost of my order so I couldn’t pull the trigger. Free shipping on $100 but they say best consumed in a few weeks… (not that I would not be up for the challenge 
Agree on the name Correctionville!! Sounds like you live in a tv show @Bicep
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Bicep
#221
With Cosmos they used extract pills. To get this amount in chocolate you have to eat too much sugar or artificial sugar which may be worse. They did it daily for 2 years.
If I could just eat dark chocolate that would be amazing. Dream world.
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