#187

Nice! Can i ask what kind of serum you use? This is for your face. right? And what is the amount of serum? Im trying to figure out the percentage of rapa solution to mix with a nice skin cream. Thanks for posting!

#188

If I understand your question correctly, @Pupcuts , serum is the resulting liquid from the recipe I provided above. If I were basing my formula on cream rather than water, I’d replace the water with cream.

Definition #2, Serum Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

a usually lightweight cosmetic preparation especially for use on the face

specifically : a typically water-based, often concentrated preparation that lacks lubricating and thickening agents

#189

Whoops, my bad. Let me rephrase my question please. Im trying to figure out what percentage of a rapa solution to use in the stuff I want to put on my skin.

So you use 5 one mg, pills crushed up and mixed with 1 tsp. transcutol and then you only add 2 tsp. of distilled water. So in your whole batch is 3 tsp. of liquid. Using the @RapAdmin recipe, one teaspoon is 5 grams, so 3 teaspoons would be 15 grams. 5 divided by 15 would come out to .33%?
I know with the toothpaste anywhere between 0.1% up to 2% is used. I am wondering if you know or have read what a good solution percentage might be for anything you put on your skin. Thanks!

#190

I aim for no more than 30% transcutol. I use the serum as I described. On my skin. A drop or two on my toothpaste before brushing. Hope this helps.

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#191

I just got my transcutol and this is on my to do list!

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#192

A word of caution…I mixed my rapa toothpaste up and began using it. I was a bit overzealous, lol I not only brushed my teeth but also my gums, tongue and the roof of my mouth, pretty rigorously. I ended up making the recession WORSE on one tooth! Egad! I was always a rigorous brusher, which got me into this situation in the first place. I should have known better. So now i am all about easy does it. Good luck on your endeavor!

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#193

What is the final final consensus regarding rapa being absorbed into the mucous membranes? Specifically the mouth. Some folks over on another chatroom say it definitely does get absorbed but i would love to hear opinions from folks here on that. I purchased some dental whitening trays and though i might try putting some rapa in the trays and sleeping with it. I grind my teeth in my sleep anyway and have used similar trays for that with no problem. Just wonder if it might be too much. Thanks!

#194

Love your post! Can i ask if you brushed with rapa or took it orally? I bought some dental teeth whitening trays and thought i might put some of my rapa toothpaste in them and wear them when i sleep but i unsure if rapa is absorbed thru the gums or not. Didnt want to overdo it an dont know where to look for information about rapa absorption into mucous membranes…

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#195

I think it would, just like skin for the rapamycin skin cream, especially if you are using transcutol or other solvent / reagent. I’ve never seen any reports of people trying it in the dental whitening trays before - and of course, no research on something like this is available. Perhaps try it and see how it goes?

#196

Thanks so much for the reply! But here’s the rub…according to Dr. Mok (has videos on rapa on Youtube) they have done studies, i believe in the Drexel study, that showed that the rapa DID NOT absorb thru the skin of the participants in the study. That is why it is considered so safe for use with the teenagers that are using it for facial problems. Sorry I cant remember the name of what they have on their face but it is more than just acne. I read about it somewhere but cant find it again. In my other chat group it is believed that rapa does not absorb thru the skin BUT, no one knows, at least that i can find, if it absorbs thru the gums, which are not the same as skin.
Of all my groups this is the my go-to group as folks here seem pretty informed about rapa but man this one is a mystery…

#197

Yes - it did not go through the skin into the blood stream, but it did get “into” the skin and thus the benefit (it it didn’t go into the skin how can it do anything). See here: Rapamycin May Slow Skin Aging (Drexel U. Study)

But most of us here are not trying to avoid rapamycin the bloodstream, we take it orally and topically.

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#198

Ahhhh…of course, thank you for that clarification. So I wonder, if i not only brushed with my rapa toothpaste but also slept with the toothpaste in my dental trays at least a few nights a week, if it would be overkill. I feel like a risk taker, I am going to try it. Lol. Thank you again for such a quick reply and always helping! :slight_smile: I had my dental hygenist measure my gum pockets before i started this so i will share my results when I go back to her. :slight_smile:

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#199

I only take rapamycin orally 6 mg once a week.

I also think Taurine… one teaspoon in the coffee each morning helped my teeth.

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#200

anyone notice gum sensitivity using rapa toothpaste?

#201

I’ve never had any issues. I can’t tell any difference compared to regular toothpaste. I’ve just finished a 3 month stint of using it twice a day, and will restart in another month or so.

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#202

And now this, over the counter supplement for teeth health. Add to rapamycin tooth paste?

Diindolylmethane (DIM), also known as bisindole, that can cut down the biofilms responsible for plaque and cavities by 90%.

Natural Molecule Wipes Out 90% of Cavity-Causing Plaque

https://scitechdaily.com/natural-molecule-wipes-out-90-of-cavity-causing-plaque/

#203

KongKandy, Yes. With crowns and other dental work sensitivity to cold water starts after several weeks of use. I could speculate on the reason, but it would just be one person’s opinion. Using Sensodyne toothpaste solves the problem within two weeks. I’m now experimenting with Rapamycin toothpaste in the morning and regular toothpaste (or Sensodyne) at night.

#204

Just a quick note: make sure the toothpaste contains the ingredient “Novamin”. Sensodyne sells a bunch of different toothpastes, but only the one with that specific ingredient actually works for sensitivity.

And with regards to this whole thread: what is the proposed mechanism of action here? Gums recede with age, and how is inhibiting mTor in the mouth epithelium supposed to help with that? I don’t quite “get” it.

#205

I think it’s a bandaid and only work while the ingredient is on the teeth, and unsolicited advice: stannous flouride toothpaste can be considered the best toothpaste in general according to different metrics and studies depending on your priorities:

#206

It is like a bandaid, but the effect is quite long lasting, in my experience. I had horrible sensitive teeth, and a few days after using Novamin 2x per day, they were significantly less sensitive. After using it for several years now, I simply don’t have sensitive teeth any more and haven’t thought about it for a long time.

In terms of cavity prevention, tooth decay, tooth loss, I have absolutely no idea. But being able to have a cold drink without wincing in pain is a huge quality of life upgrade!