#21

That’s interesting as to the scfas used during ovulation. Citrate is added at fertilisation.

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#22

Chlorophyll is known to help reduce body odor, maybe that would be useful for this? You could increase intake of greens, it take a specific chlorophyll supplement.

I looked into this as higher testosterone also produces body odor, and being on TRT I want to avoid this. It did help for that.

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#23

A Simple Explanation for Old People Smell

There’s a more simple explanation for one typical kind of old people smell. It’s leaking ! Old people tend to leak…urine. Their bladder sphincters get weak and they leak into their underwear. It becomes such a regular thing for them, they get used to it.

And there is a distinctive smell, as you might guess.

Been there, done that.

Fortunately, there’s an equally simple solution: Kegel exercises. If you don’t know what they are… just Google an explanation. They strengthen the pelvic muscles and stop leaking. You can even download Apps to support daily exercises. And they do work quite quickly.

I hope that helps !

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#24

It’s true about the urine leakage. Even with my poor sense of smell I smelled plenty of it working in the medical field for 25 years. Nonenal is distinctly different though.

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#25

I’m thinking our skin biome might age similarly to our gut biome. I’ve been trying to give my gut biome plenty of food in the form of prebiotics from plant fibers and will continue. For the skin on my body I’ve just been using a cleanser and lotion recommendation from Michael Lustgarten’s book Microbial Burden to help maintain optimal pH and skin barrier. Hopefully this keeps it at bay.

#26

A glass a day - of Kefir and Kombucha for your gut biome.

Very cheap because you use the last 15% to make the next batch.

Buy starter packs for each on the internet or eBay.

My digestion and bowels and tested inflammation levels have been great since I started a few years ago.

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#27

Fantastic! Thanks for the tips. I personally noticed a big difference from eating overnight oats with a little yogurt or kefir added and eating 2-3 pounds of a variety of vegetables and fruits each day.

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#28

It’s a good idea, but who will cover the expense for it? Or did you mean that an administrator could do it out of own pocket?

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#29

Mine too! I really cannot imagine skipping my morning kefir smoothie loaded with berries, hemp seeds, broccoli sprouts and cacao.

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#30

I’ve been in over 200… One time (the 90’s) in Boston I was out with one of our top sales people (all our sales people were RN’s) and as we walked in the door the smell of urine was hard to miss. She asked me “do you smell that”? yep I sure do, as I blinked my eyes… her reply “that’s the smell of money”…

It’s actually the smell of neglect and it is one of the main drivers of bed sores in the bed ridden elderly. This facility was generating over $20k a month in equipment rental for us, not to mention the cost of the dressings (other vendors), if they actually changed them as required.

This was the facility that caused me to make a pact with my wife,

use the pillow if I need to be institutionalized

Fortunately she won’t have that burden as we can use the MAID option now.

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#31

My husband and I have a similar agreement that we will choose hospice.

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#32

No worries. That’s awesome about the younger lady complimenting you on your looks!
Yeah, I’ll try to incorporate more positive language/compliments at the gym. Work on my love bombing skills lol.
That’s good he can use the scented candle there. Ahaha ya no doubt could turn
into a nightmare - scent wars. Would probably get a mix of good and bad scenarios.

@LaraPo Thanks. Correct, I was meaning that her husband cover it out of own pocket.

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#33

Hello! I am aware that white button mushroom extract has been used for odor issues in Japan for some time. The extract I am aware of is Champex. The website that I know of that listed a lot of studies seems to be down but is here: Champex™ Neutralizes body and mouth odours

Here is a study about its use in body and fecal odor: Effects of 4-week continuous ingestion of champignon extract on halitosis and body and fecal odor - PMC

The products containing this in the US are Deodorex from Quality of Life and in a lower dose Yerba Prima Odor cleanse. You also may be able to find Japanese products with this in it on Ebay and so forth. It is unclear to me if powdered white button mushroom extract has the same effect. I have no affiliation with this product or the manufacturers and cannot speak to its anti odor properties, but I am aware of it due to its effects on helping the kidney and as such I gave it to my cat with Kidney disease.

The other ones I am aware of are chlorophyll and Devrom (bismuth subgallate) but the latter may be more for stool odor than all over body odor.

My understanding is also that Nonenal is a byproduct of fatty acids in the body basically going rancid and oxidizing. So perhaps general antioxidants could help as well.

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#34

Thanks snowfall for presenting some new ideas to explore.

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#35

Synthetic copulins are a very strange smell, I’ve seen it referred to as an “rotting cheeseburger”. I don’t know how to describe it myself. But I do like that I have smelled some of these synthetic pheromones as I can detect it now on others. As these are concentrated I don’t think you’d ever smell these same smells directly on another person.

They do have some effects on men in a few small scale trials, such as raising testosterone, and rating women as more attractive than they would be otherwise. Anecdotally, I think it’s suggested that men do not wear copulins themselves, as it makes other men aggressive towards them.

The place that I am aware of and that is legitimate is Love Potion Perfumes: UNscented Pheromones – Love Potion Magickal Perfumerie

Although a lot of people use pheromones for dating purposes, I was using them a bit differently. I used to play around with these to see if they would help anxiety when applied to myself or see if I could get an social advantage in some situations - I’m autistic and I suspect people pick up on this, and wanted to see if using some of the friendly pheromones would help smooth things out. It was unclear to me how much was placebo but as we all know, placebo is a powerful thing. I haven’t used them in a while.

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#36

No problem. Let us know if anything ends up helping. Adding some extra white button mushrooms to anyone’s diet is cheap and easy enough even if it doesn’t help odor!

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#37

Oh Yay! White button mushrooms are one of my favorites.
I don’t think my husband is going to say anything to his dad but we are going on a family vacation this summer so if the timing seems right I might bring it up. :blush:

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#38

In a clinical trial published in the Journal of Traditional and Complementary Medicine, 80 adults aged 50 to 79 took daily doses of champignon mushroom extract for four weeks.

Participants were divided into four groups taking 0, 50 mg, 500 mg, or 1,000 mg daily. The results showed clear, dose-dependent improvements in halitosis (bad breath), body odor, and pillow scent, especially in the highest dosage group.

Importantly, no side-effects were reported from eating mushrooms regularly.

‘Champignon mushroom extract directly inhibits the production of toxic odor compounds in the body,’ researchers wrote in their report.

The mushroom extract also lowered levels of ammonia and methyl mercaptan, gut-related compounds known for causing foul odors.

Lab tests showed it helped break down these sulfur-based byproducts into odorless forms, effectively neutralizing the smell.

In another study in Food Chemistry, researchers at the University of Turku in Finland analyzed the natural scent compounds in wild Nordic mushrooms.

They found chemicals like (E)-2-nonenal, which is linked to the body odor that develops with age.

Researchers also discovered that the mushrooms contained substances that may block the skin process responsible for those smells.

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#39

Thank you! I found this supplement available in 500mg capsules.

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