#343

I find it really unfortunate that these companies all decided to include 222% of the DV of Molybdenum in every NACET supplement. i can’t think of any reason to supplement molybdenum and risk a copper deficiency.

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#344

Yes, I was surprised to see that they all add Molybdenum. I didn’t even know what it was ! Is there any reason for it, and is it true it causes copper deficiency?

#345

It can in high doses. I’m just not entirely sure what those doses would be

#346

FWIW…

I take on and off, daily the following based on the original papers formula / calculation - I call it GlyNACET+

Dose for 190lb / 86.1826Kg
8800mg / 8.8g of Glycine minimum
8400mg from capsules plus
Powder in black coffee
From 16x capsules (each capsule - 525mg glycine-50mg NACET - 50mcg Molybdenum - 25mcg Selenium)
Total of;
800mg NACET
This comes with the capsules
800mcg of Molybdenum
400mcg of Selenium

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#347

8 mg of glycine seems low.

Never mind. I see it was addressed above.

#348

That’s because it’s amphetamine! Anyone who takes it at a high enough dose will get this feeling. I don’t understand the bizarre myth that Adderall only has an effect on people with ADHD . . . if you’re a human being and you take 20mg of amphetamine, you’re going to feel amazing.

From Wikipedia:

Currently, pharmaceutical amphetamine is prescribed as racemic amphetamine, Adderall, dextroamphetamine, or the inactive prodrug lisdexamfetamine. Amphetamine increases monoamine and excitatory neurotransmission in the brain, with its most pronounced effects targeting the norepinephrine and dopamine neurotransmitter systems.

At therapeutic doses, amphetamine causes emotional and cognitive effects such as euphoria, change in desire for sex, increased wakefulness, and improved cognitive control. It induces physical effects such as improved reaction time, fatigue resistance, decreased appetite, elevated heart rate, and increased muscle strength.

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#349

Ha, well touché!

Seriously though… I don’t really know much about it because I didn’t take it very long before the cardiologist ripped it out of my cold dead hands… but…

I was under the impression it has an upper effect for those without ADD. I dunno, but I was able to have a clear mind and could actually finish a task… but, I get by without it, so once I learned it was not healthy, I never looked back.

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#350

Oh no, it doesn’t at all . . . but that’s a common misconception! I wasn’t trying to put you down :slight_smile:

And it’s actually not very unhealthy, as long as you keep it to therapeutic doses. People who are prescribed Adderall (usually) eat less, are more physically active and weigh less . . . which aren’t bad things. (It should absolutely be a prescription drug, though; it’s easy to abuse.)

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#351

How significant are the blood pressure and heart rate increase at therapeutic doses? Also is therapeutic considered something like 10mg?

I’ve used adderall maybe ten times all the way back when I was a college student to study for exams but that was long before I knew anything about health.

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#352

Hasn’t affected mine over the last three years I’ve been prescribed! Yes, therapeutic dose is anywhere from 10mg to 60mg per day.

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#354

I leaned the hard way that it is important to drink a big glass of water when taking NAC. Apparently, it is very acidic. Btw, has anyone noticed a reversal of presbyopia? I have been taking glynac and taurine on alternate mornings, and I think my eyesight is improving. Or perhaps it is all of the carrots and parsnips I’ve been eating.

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#355

Yes. I’ve noticed my eyesight is getting better, but I wasn’t sure what to attribute it to.

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#356

I’ll just share the couple of notes I took:

He takes 600mg per day … 1200 on occasion.

He said try not to take it with a lot of protein

Ideally take it on an empty stomach, but you might want to try taking it 30 minutes prior to a meal to avoid digestive issue.

I’ve been taking 100mg of NACET… I wonder how that compares to NAC.

And wow @Ray1 and DeStrider about your eyesight improving!

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#358

Glycine at this point I think is the single biggest thing in my stack for cutting fat…

I take A LOT of stuff…

prescription - rapa/simvastatin+ezetimibe/jardiance 25/telmisartan 80/sirt 6 activator - well, not prescription/prucalopride/dutasteride/high dose acarbose 600 now 300 twice a day with or without food/

non prescription - novos core and the 12? ingredients of that. vitamins a/d3/k2/magnesium/zinc/psyllium husk/melatonin 40 a night high dose

I’m a light smoker with the same workout routine of the last many years - body by science…

anything else that im missing…

But, my fat fluctuation really fluctuated when I took a 2-3 month absence from high gram glycine. for the last year and a half I took high gram glycine and stopped and just packed on the belly and excess fat. I think glycine is the key ingredient here, so I am back on it.

I’ve always debated NAC. I take novos core and follow a lot of their lead and they always mention it as an iffy ingredient - 8 Anti-Aging Supplements You Don't Want To Take

  1. N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC)

Some studies show that N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC) can extend lifespan, mostly in simple organisms (R,R,R), but also in mice – however in mice the results are open to interpretation (R).

Other studies show that NAC actually shortens lifespan (R).

N-acetyl cysteine is a strong antioxidant. As we explained before, many antioxidants do not extend lifespan, and can sometimes even shorten lifespan.

Studies also show that NAC can increase the spread (metastasis) of cancer (R,R).

Which makes sense: cancer cells are fast dividing cells that don’t regulate their metabolism well, so they produce lots of free radicals.

Antioxidants like N-acetyl-cysteine mop up these oxidants, something which is very helpful for free-radical ridden cancer cells.

So to err on the side of caution, we currently do not advise taking N-acetyl-cysteine.

But I think I will give it a go and start to add some NAC to test it out

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#359

I was messing with high dose NAC and glycine when I got afib. Somebody else on here mentioned it can mess with heart rhythm. I’d just say don’t go really high. I was taking several grams.

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#360

It would be helpful if more people stated their current dose…

I’m still skeptical of NAC, so I won’t go beyond three grams, though I still go ham on glycine which I think is a more proven healthful substance (15-20 grams a day)

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#361

After more consideration I might just stick with glycine and no NAC, which hopefully is enough to raise glutathione by itself

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#362

Glycine will raise glutathione, but not as much as Glycine and NAC. I take 4 g of NAC daily along with plenty of Glycine.

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