Some say using machines can actually cause joint stress, as the action is restricted by the machine’s motion. Dumbbells provide a natural motion and shouldn’t cause injury. I see many in the gym lifting with bad form (e.g. using too heavy weights, eccentric motion too quick, etc.) There are lots of quality videos online that provide guidance on form and which lifts should be avoided (e.g. upright rows)
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Just had some recent blood tests and took the Aging.Ai test that gave me an age of 54, almost a 30-year favorable differential.
However, having a T-test at the same time is not looking good.
Free T results are not in yet.
My T has never ever been this low! My next lowest reading ever was 325.
What this tells me, at least for me as an 82 yr old:
The BS supplements that I am currently taking i.e. d-aspartic acid, and a few others are just wasting my money.
Incredibly, to my mind, even though I have been going to the gym on a very regular basis and doing fairly heavy resistance training, it has not raised my T.
Surprisingly I feel well
I have some enclomiphene on the way from India.
In the meantime, I am going to try a supplement containing ingredients mentioned on a Joe Rogan podcast:
If these measures don’t do the trick then I will try TRT.
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AnUser
#133
The active ingredient is TongKat Ali is apparently Eurycomanone, from nootropicsdepot they standardize to it:
Based on my research of bempedoic acid I have concluded that there is probably much more research for pharmaceutical drugs over supplements, just to get approved, a lot of safety data in animals etc as well.
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My current pathetic T level. At 82 I expected it to be low, but not this low. I will try the Tongkat Ali + supplement for 6 weeks and take another test and see how much enclomiphene I need to take if any. If Tongkat Ali and/or enclomiphene don’t work sufficiently, I will try traditional TRT.
I publish my results so that they might help others to understand or view their own results.
At this point in life, I have no problem sharing my medical results.
Apparently, rapamycin doesn’t boost testosterone. 
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AnUser
#136
Enclomifene and clomid doesn’t seem as good as I thought based on this video, where Greg says it lowers IGF-1 etc that might counter muscle building side effects of higher testosterone, and it decreases estrogen and estrogen levels in the brain which might have mental side effects:
Noteworthy that Bryan Johnson uses testosterone directly with patches, and not enclomifene etc, despite some concerns people have about it over serms.
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@desertshores good luck. I’ve never tested my free T. I will someday because I think it is a marker of health status.
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Ray1
#138
I wish I could recall which thread, but several people on this forum have remarked that rapamycin seems to reduce testosterone levels.
RPS
#139
I use Tongkat Ali and it boosted my Testosterone levels somewhat.
Tried it with the Fidogia Agrestis as a combo and that didn’t make much difference. Maybe that means I’ve plateaued, but have just gone back to the Tongkat on its own.
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Engadin
#140
If your knees are in trouble, a weighted vest will only add stress to your joints.
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Ludovic
#141
Interesting article about anabolic resistance in elderly;
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Jay
#142
DesertShores, I’ve been using DHEA, 25 mg morning and 25 mg evening for many months. It raised my total testosterone close to the upper limit and raised free testosterone from 4 to 6, still below normal though.
total testosterone 719 (range 264-916 ng/dl)
free testosterone 6 (range 6.6-18.1 g/ml)
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scta123
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I took my first dose of the combo yesterday. One cap in the morning with food and one cap in the evening with food. I had a fitful sleep and woke up this morning with a mild headache.
Do you think this was a coincidence? Have you ever experienced this taking Togkat Ali?
Thanks. Now all I need is an up to date measurement of total T and SHBG. I’ll do that soon.
RPS
#146
Not experienced anything like that.
I do only take one dose at midday with food, so have never had it in the evening.
TBI-CHI
#147
I’m 63 and I used to lift. The peak of my lifting was around 1995 with a massive amount of reps and sets with heavy weights. I was an athlete in several activities (sports and martial arts) over the course of my life.
I’ve lost a ton of muscle mass and strength. I’d like to gain back the strength but I cannot due to cardiovascular issues.
If you are healthy just shoot to get strength. Increase reps, sets and increasing weight over time and keep going.
Good luck!
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Agetron
#148
Well welcome to the raging steroid club.
Joking 200 mg TRT keeps you in the normal USA range of 800 to 1500 . Not the 8,000 mg doses of crazed body builders. Big difference.
I think TRT is a good balance with rapamycin based on 3- years use of the combo. Feel like I havent aged any… actually reversed age.
As to male gonads… nuts, the rapamycin seems to keep fluid normal (full loads ejaculated) and atrophy (shrinage) away. I will spare pics… you can private message me… very private… lol.
In one of the 11 organ benefits I posted some time back gonads are full … no atrophywhen on rapamycin. So they work well together.
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Strangely, even with low T, it doesn’t seem to keep me from gaining muscle mass even at age 82.
I previously posted a picture and I am planning to post a 2 year update. I have gained at least 3/4" in my bicep arm circumference measurement in the last two years. My main objections to TRT: I don’t want to deal with doctors, I don’t want to deal with needles or gels, and last but not least, is the problematic effect on the gonads. I know that TRT is considered safe, it is just not for me. For now, I am going to try other methods.
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