What is Spreen???

Typo, will fix

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From Elite HRV. It looks like the defunct Amazon fitness strap body fat estimator (plus a few extra features). How much does it cost?

Yes, from Elite. I think I got it as a free beta test on Android before they pulled it from Android and made it Apple only. So I don’t know what it costs. Much less than a DEXA :slight_smile:

The results are very different in normal person mode vs. athlete mode. I would not have known which mode was appropriate without the DEXA scan. You need the latter mode.

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Cancer combined is the number two killer I think in the western world

And unlike diabetes and heart decease there are fewer levers we can pull to control the risks. Calories and protein (especially growth aminos) is one lever where we might have some control.

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I agree with that question

@Jay these posts and the ones around them might be helpful:

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Compared with people who died at the age of ≤79 years, centenarians belonged 2.5 times (odds ratio (OR) = 2.52, 95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.23-5.10) more often to the highest third of grip strength in midlife, were never smokers (OR = 5.75 95% CI = 3.06-10.80), had participated in physical activity outside work (OR = 1.13 per daily hour, 95% CI = 1.02-1.25), and had a long-lived mother (≥80 vs. ≤60 years, OR = 2.3, 95% CI = 1.06-5.01). Associations for nonagenarians and octogenarians were parallel, but weaker. Multivariate modeling showed that mother’s longevity and offspring’s grip strength operated through the same or overlapping pathway to longevity. High midlife grip strength and long-lived mother may indicate resilience to aging, which, combined with healthy lifestyle, increases the probability of extreme longevity.

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Nice. I’m on the right track, including my ageless mom.

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@Joseph_Lavelle How old is your mother?

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@DeStrider My mom is 84yo. Her mom lived to 106.

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I am starting to get curious about HMB.

Memory and strength always in my thoughts.
Yes, β-Hydroxy-β-Methyl Butyrate (HMB) is a natural metabolite of the amino acid leucine that’s produced in the human body. It’s also found in small amounts in some foods, such as grapefruit, alfalfa, and catfish.
WebMD

Link: https://www.gbnews.com/health/supplemements-hmb-memory-muscle-strength

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I’ve been trying HMB for a few months. Can’t point to any particular positive effects but definitely no negative effects.

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I’ve added HMB to my shake for about a year now. At the time I started, the research was weak, but I figured it couldn’t hurt and my source is not expensive. I haven’t noticed any particular result but it’s hard to say since I do a lot of things in parallel.

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Years ago HMB was touted as a “avoid muscle loss” tool for people who had to stop exercising due to illness or injury. My takeaway back then was it was fine but I might as well just get enough protein (and leucine). Has anything new been confirmed?

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I basically came to the same conclusion and am not aware of any new research that contradicts it. However, the potential cognitive benefits shown in mouse-model research are interesting. Here is the original study Muscle-building supplement β-hydroxy β-methylbutyrate binds to PPARα to improve hippocampal functions in mice. This study had only 6 mice per group, which the author’s math show to be statistically significant. I’m sceptical, but don’t remember enough statistics to be able to check the math. Maybe HMB would help ; )

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@Walter_Brown are you still still cycling MK2866?

Yes, on it at the moment. Will follow with Tamoxifen PCT.

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What benefits have you noticed and what is your protocol look like if you don’t mind me asking?

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My protocol is 12 weeks using 1ml of a 25mg/ml solution. I follow this with 2 weeks of 20mg tamoxifen, then taper to 10mg for one week, then pill split 5mg daily for final week.

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Fantastic. Many thanks

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