From the paper: “18:6 TRD restricted the daily feeding window from 10:00 to 16:00 without total energy intake restriction”

So unfortunately it seems that even “a piddly little 16 hour “fast” like most people use inhibits hair growth”.

I don’t believe it. Mechanistic data is one thing, but show me a study with a phototrichogram demonstrating actual reduced hair counts. I have done WAY too much fasting over the years and have way too much hair for this to be true.

What are you saying?! It’s not mechanistic, they measured hair growth:

To assess hair growth, a 1 cm² area on the back of the scalp was shaved. Trichoscopy (Meiboyi, M-12) was used to capture hair shaft images. Hair length was measured manually and independently by two experimenters, who were blinded to group assignments using LabelMe software (version 5.3.1). Measurements were repeated after 3 days to determine the speed of hair growth during this period. The average hair growth speed was assessed at both the baseline period (day 0 – day 3) and the end of the intervention period (day 9 – day 12). The hair shaft width was also measured, and the density of terminal hair (≥ 30 μm) and vellus hair (< 30 μm) were calculated as the number of hair shafts with roots present in the image, divided by the size of the image.
Post-hoc power analysis indicated that our trial has 92% power to detect the observed difference of 0.075 mm/day in hair growth between the TRD group (n = 8) and the control group (n = 9), with a significance level of 0.05 using two-sided two sample t-test.
To identify changes in hair growth, we shaved the existing hair within a 1 cm2 area on the scalp and then measured the length of hair regrown back after 3 days. This experiment was conducted at both the baseline period and at the end of the intervention period (Figure 7D). Consistent with our findings in preclinical models, human participants undergoing intermittent fasting showed a significant inhibitory effect on hair growth—the average speed of hair growth in the TRD group decreased by 18% compared with the control group (p = 0.0028, Figures 7E and S7J). While hair shaft density did not show significant changes, many regrown hairs became shorter and thinner in diameter (Figures 7F, 7G, and S7K; Table S2).
Third, our human RCT study was conducted exclusively on healthy young adults and did not include individuals with obesity, where intermittent fasting regimens are commonly adopted.

Conclusion, as of today, evidence points to intermittent fasting being detrimental for hair growth in humans.

Yeah, looks convincing. At the same time, what do we do with actual individual experience? I’ve been doing TRF since the year 2000. And pretty solid too, about 20 hours daily. Since about 2010, I’ve also incorporated the 5:2 diet, where on two days a week, I eat one ~500 cal meal, so on those two days, I fast 23 hours a day.

Hair situation. On my scalp, I can detect very little hair loss. In fact, if anything I have been losing less hair compared to before adopting TRF - back in the day, I used to have to remove hair from the drain catch after a shower, and I’d see hair on the pillow case in the morning. That attenuated a great deal.

My wife cuts my hair. She always remarks with surprise that my hair remains thick. I am 66 years old. I have the thickest hair of all my friends, and no real progress in the male pattern hair loss.

On the other side of this. My hair is definitely not as thick as in my 20’s and 30’s, but I have been lucky to have exceptionally thick hair as a young man, so much so, that it was very frequently remarked upon by strangers and friends alike. I was able to grow my hair half way down my back as late as my mid 30’s (cut short when I held a corporate job for a decade). It also grew very fast.

My hair stopped growing fast, and grew slowly when I started CR (same as fingernails and toenails). Eventually I stopped CR, but my hair never regained its fast growth of youth (but fingernails did!).

Graying slowly started about 5 years ago, still not a lot, but definitely visible around my temples.

One interesting phenomenon: during my CR days I lost all the hair on my arms and legs, and never regained it. I never had a lot of body hair, but the effect on my arms and legs was very pronounced.

So what can I conclude? I am a very strong believer in science. I totally believe in the results of this study. But I cannot deny my own lived experience, and the testimony of others either. What to do?

I find myself in the position of the apocryphal Prussian scientists back in the early 1800’s who gathered together and wrote a paper, wherein they concluded that based on the laws of physics they categorically state that bumblebees cannot fly given their bodies and wing size and air. That was all well and good, but the bumblebees refused to comply and kept flying anyway, even after the paper was published. The Prussian scientists kept their conclusions and were not swayed by the bumblebee insubordination, just as the bumblebees kept disrespectfully defying the most distinguished scientists of the day.

What do I do here? I want to comply with this study as I am thoroughly convinced of its merits, but the disrespectful hair on my head refuses to submit to science, so I do apologize on behalf of my scalp. Help!

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I’m sorry, I read through the linked study, admittedly skimmed a lot of it since I’m a layperson, and saw a lot of stuff about mice but missed anything on humans

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It doesn’t mean that IF group had the same caloric intake as the control group. It just says that the study didn’t place any caloric restriction on them except of the time feeding window. Apparently caloric intake in the intermittent fasting group was either not tracked or not disclosed to us.

Can’t blame you, the study group that has 10 IF participants, the study period is 2 weeks, the caloric intake of IF participants is not disclosed or not tracked, all of this raises the question if the paper was peer reviewed.

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Peer-review is not perfect but it has been published in Cell: 21st journal in the world by impact factor and 1st in its category (Biochemistry & Molecular Biology). So very high quality. It’s a Chinese paper, but decent institutions and one of the authors is now at Harvard University.

Of course, it’s still a tiny trial. But we have here a high-quality article combining mechanistic understanding + animal data + small RCT on humans, all pointing to deleterious effects of IF on hair growth.

You can either bring your n=1 anecdotes or cite other research papers that contradict the above claims. But without that, the evidence for now is that IF is bad for hair growth. (I say for now because it could well be that in a few weeks or months another team proves the exact opposite who knows!)

Article in Nature commenting on the paper: Fasting can reduce weight — but also hair growth

A popular weight-loss regimen stunts hair growth, data collected from mice and humans suggest1. The study’s findings show that intermittent fasting, which involves short bouts of food deprivation, triggers a stress response that can inhibit or even kill hair-follicle stem cells, which give rise to hair.
The results, published in today in Cell, suggest that although short-term fasting can provide health benefits, such as increased lifespan in mice, not all tissue and cell types benefit.
“I was shocked to hear these results,” says Ömer Yilmaz, a stem-cell biologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge who was not involved in the study. “We’ve come to expect that fasting is going to be beneficial for most, if not all cell types and good for stem cells. This is the inverse of what we expected, and the finding seems to hold true in humans.”
It is “intriguing” that these effects did not extend to the related stem cells that make and repair the outer layer of the skin, but those cells form an essential immune barrier, says Elaine Fuchs, a stem-cell researcher at the Rockefeller University in New York City who was not involved in the study. “At least some of us would agree that unless you are a musk ox on an Alaskan tundra, hair is dispensable,” Fuchs says. “In intermittent fasting, the body doesn’t know when it will next receive a meal, and the need becomes protecting the main core organs while dispensing with those that aren’t essential.”
Yilmaz and his colleagues also found a downside to intermittent fasting: the diet could prompt the development of precancerous intestinal growths if mice incurred a cancer-causing genetic change during the post-fasting period2. These findings should prompt further investigations of fasting’s effects on cells in the brain and the liver, Yilmaz says.

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One point frequently stressed in recent times when evaluating CR studies, is the possible role of feeding time in CR’d animals. Traditionally, this aspect was ignored for decades. An ad-lib (control) mouse/rat was of course given access to food, and the animal would eat whenever it wanted to. Whereas for the CR’d animal, the practice was usually, to cut back on the amount of food, and simply dump that amount into the cage. Well, in reevaluating those studies decades later, researchers observed that there was an unaccounted factor of meal timing - the controls had access to food at all times, so would eat regularly throughout the day (night). Meanwhile, the CR’d animals were very hungry, so they’d immediately consume all food in one go. And then, remain without food for the rest of the time (23+ hours), until the next portion of food was delivered the following day. Now today’s researchers in going back to all those old CR studies, started wondering to what degree the CR effect was due to just the calorie restriction, and to what degree to the, in effect, TRF (Time Restricted Feeding), or intermittent fasting - keeping in mind that a 23 hour fast in a mouse is physiologically significantly longer than 23 hours in a human.

What could be said, is that in most of those studies, the mice were subject to both CR, and TRF (or IF).

Here is what I personally find interesting. These mice/rats were on pretty robust IF. Yet, one of the famous and pretty universally observed effects of CR, is the coat/pelt quality difference between the CR’d (and IF’d!) animals and the ad-lib controls. The CR-IF animals always had much better, younger, healthier, less gray, thicker coats.

How does that multi-decade-observed in thousands upon thousands of animals effect square with this “bad for hair” result in this one tiny study in mice?

The following study is a goldmine of priceless data on CR, TRF/IF in rodents, with a veritable who’s who of researchers. If you ever wish to speak of these subjects, you cannot do without reading this paper:

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"Abstract

Calorie restriction (CR) promotes healthy aging in diverse species. Recently, it has been shown that fasting for a portion of each day has metabolic benefits and promotes lifespan. These findings complicate the interpretation of rodent CR studies, in which animals typically eat only once per day and rapidly consume their food, which collaterally imposes fasting. Here, we show that a prolonged fast is necessary for key metabolic, molecular and geroprotective effects of a CR diet. Using a series of feeding regimens, we dissect the effects of calories and fasting, and proceed to demonstrate that fasting alone recapitulates many of the physiological and molecular effects of CR. Our results shed new light on how both when and how much we eat regulate metabolic health and longevity, and demonstrate that daily prolonged fasting, and not solely reduced calorie intake, is likely responsible for the metabolic and geroprotective benefits of a CR diet."

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The quality of the coat condition and fur color were diminished in both AL and Diluted AL mice, while CR mice retained a healthy coat (Figs. 6FG).

I think, quite frankly, that the overwhelming evidence from decades of reseach points away from this one peculiar result. YMMV.

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Right. My perspective is the “science” just keeps you from fooling or lying to yourself. Your lived experience is the most important source of information for YOU but it’s hard to be sure what to learn from that experience. Always seek disconfirming information. On the other hand, if you just chase the science (or worse, headlines) you’ll make little progress chasing a thousand leads running in every direction. And one study means nothing.

This is my perspective and how I manage my own efforts.

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I have many of the same observations as you regarding CR and TRF. My leg hair is almost non existent now, and nail growth has slowed dramatically.

In my mind this latest study is just a click bait. It is basically designed to stir up controversy. It has been known for a long time that IF in humans does not do much unless it leads to calorie restriction. Further, it has been known for a while that when you initiate cr or IF it may lead to stress and malnutrition and your hair may temporarily stop growing, fall out, thin out etc. thank you click bait study for confirming that. now where click bait study really goes overboard is when it insinuates that these effects are long lasting. Really? Show me the proof as all you got is a 2 week human study. Au contraire when we look at the long term studies in primates, we see the following Calorie restriction lets monkeys live long and prosper