Life Expectancy in the USA (Bad and Getting Worse)

[DeStrider]

There are no X units, and there are Y units, but they aren’t showing it.

How about this one:

[RapAdmin]

Perhaps a turning point in US life expectancy?

About 13% of U.S. Adults Have Tried a GLP-1 Drug Like Ozempic

Source: x.com

[RapAdmin]

But improvements in life expectancy in the USA will be very unequal:

Source: x.com

And will also likely vary by political orientation:

Source: x.com

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[ng0rge]

@RapAdmin

And will also likely vary by political orientation:

That’s a pretty political post!..ok, you’re just quoting someone else, but still…we little people would probably get busted for that!

[amuser]

@ng0rge

we little people would probably get busted for that!

Typical Democrat…‘Rules for thee, but not for me.’

[ng0rge]

@amuser

Democrat

Careful…that’s a “banned” word…have you ever seen the inside of the “Rapa Dungeon”?..scary! Makes Abu Ghraib look like a playpen…just ask @AnUser

[RapAdmin]

Not at all. I set up this site to help people live longer and healthier lives whatever your political leaning.

If you see some accepted scientific fact ( like childhood vaccinations are going to improve the health and lifespans of most children) that any group is ignoring to their own detriment then by all means post it.

Childhood Vaccinations are one of the key reasons people in developed nations have such long and healthy lives. And HPV vaccines that prevent cervical cancer later in life is just one example of many. I find it sad that thousands of people will die premature and painful deaths due to misinformation about childhood vaccines.

And I am not including RNA-based vaccines in this discussion as those are a slightly different beast, which I can see some reason for varying opinions.

And we have had plenty of anti-vax sentiment in the San Francisco Bay area for many years, but seems to have lessened

For example Marin County of a decade ago, when the region’s childhood vaccination rates were among the lowest in the state.

[DeStrider]

[amuser]

@RapAdmin

Childhood Vaccinations are one of the key reasons people in developed nations have such long and healthy lives… I find it sad that thousands of people will die premature and painful deaths due to misinformation about childhood vaccines.

Here is the source for the far left propagandist tweet you quoted:

Far Fewer in U.S. Regard Childhood Vaccinations as Important

And here’s a more complete graphic contained therein

99% of D’s but only 78% of R’s assign some level of importance to childhood vaccinations. Wow that R number is terrible, bodies lying everywhere, amirite? (My favorite thing about that bar graph is the that the D line manages to be longer than the R line, though supposedly representing the same percentage. WTAF.)

But just for grins, let’s look at the most recent actual vaccination data:

Let’s ask the question: How many two-year-olds have gotten zero vaccinations? Presumably this can function as a proxy for ‘vaccine hesitancy’.

And it shows a rise from 0.9% of the 2018-19 cohort to 1.2% for 2020-21. (I am assuming that if a kid got at least one vaccination, the parrents may be poor at parenting, but they’re not ‘vaccine hesitant’)

The CDC chooses to emphasize the above as a ‘decline in vaccine coverage’, and throws ‘vaccine hesitancy’ in there as one of the reasons.

Decline in Vaccination Coverage by Age 24 Months ...

Yet the CDC by it’s own measures still code following objective as ‘target met or exceeded’.

Approximately 3.5 million in the 2021 cohort. 1.2% would be 42,000. So I guess the CDC is OK with that level of exposure.

[KarlT]

When I interact with parents that are anti vax, their reasons are multiple, but Covid almost always comes up with the statement about what a disaster that was as the reason they don’t vax. Of course, autism is high on the list also.

[RapAdmin]

And - I assume you correct people’s misperceptions on the link of vaccinations to autism, as its been thoroughly debunked.

Vaccines and autism

[DeStrider]

Here are some factors that affect only Americans that would add 1.6 years to the average life expectancy. That’s a start, but still not enough.

In 2022, drug-related deaths accounted for the greatest loss of potential years of life expectancy at birth. In other words, if drug-related deaths did not occur, the average American could expect to live nearly one year longer (0.9 years). The United States would add an average of 0.4 years and 0.3 years of life expectancy if firearm-related and alcohol-induced deaths, respectively, were eliminated (Figure 2). Younger Americans would see the greatest opportunity for gaining potential years of life if these causes of death were eliminated, though each age group would be impacted to some degree if deaths due to alcohol, drugs, or firearms were eliminated or reduced.

https://www.aamcresearchinstitute.org/our-work/data-snapshot/narrowing-gap

[Agetron]

Here it is boys 114 years is the current limit for men… women get 115 years… let’s beat it!!

Scientists have discovered the maximum age a human can live to

[RapamycinCurious]

@amuser

Here is the source for the far left propagandist tweet you quoted:

" far left propagandist"? Timothy Caufield is a respected Canadian researcher on health misinformation at McGill University. There’s nothing in the Tweet to suggest he’s scoring political points: he’s reporting the data.

@amuser

And here’s a more complete graphic contained therein

99% of D’s but only 78% of R’s assign some level of importance to childhood vaccinations. Wow that R number is terrible, bodies lying everywhere, amirite? (My favorite thing about that bar graph is the that the D line manages to be longer than the R line, though supposedly representing the same percentage. WTAF.)

Read the caption: they omitted people who expressed no opinion.

@amuser

But just for grins, let’s look at the most recent actual vaccination data:

Let’s ask the question: How many two-year-olds have gotten zero vaccinations? Presumably this can function as a proxy for ‘vaccine hesitancy’.

And it shows a rise from 0.9% of the 2018-19 cohort to 1.2% for 2020-21. (I am assuming that if a kid got at least one vaccination, the parrents may be poor at parenting, but they’re not ‘vaccine hesitant’)

The CDC chooses to emphasize the above as a ‘decline in vaccine coverage’, and throws ‘vaccine hesitancy’ in there as one of the reasons.

The data only go up until the 2020-2021 winter vaccine season — i.e., before the highly politically polarized increase in anti-vaccine sentiment that erupted with the COVID vaccines.

[RapamycinCurious]

** Ten Americas: a systematic analysis of life expectancy disparities in the USA**

In this systematic analysis, we defined ten mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive Americas comprising the entire US population, starting with all combinations of county and race and ethnicity, and assigning each to one of the ten Americas based on race and ethnicity and a variable combination of geographical location, metropolitan status, income, and Black–White residential segregation. We … by [which of the ten Americas], year, sex, and age, and calculated age-specific mortality rates in each of these strata. Finally, we constructed abridged life tables for each America, year, and sex, and extracted life expectancy at birth, partial life expectancy within five age groups (0–4, 5–24, 25–44, 45–64, and 65–84 years), and remaining life expectancy at age 85 years.

We defined the ten Americas as: America 1—Asian individuals; America 2—Latino individuals in other counties; America 3—White (majority), Asian, and American Indian or Alaska Native (AIAN) individuals in other counties; America 4—White individuals in non-metropolitan and low-income Northlands; America 5—Latino individuals in the Southwest; America 6—Black individuals in other counties; America 7—Black individuals in highly segregated metropolitan areas; America 8—White individuals in low-income Appalachia and Lower Mississippi Valley; America 9—Black individuals in the non-metropolitan and low-income South; and America 10—AIAN individuals in the West.

Large disparities in life expectancy between the Americas were apparent throughout the study period but grew more substantial over time, particularly during the first 2 years of the COVID-19 pandemic. In 2000, life expectancy ranged 12·6 years (95% uncertainty interval 12·2–13·1), from 70·5 years (70·3–70·7) for America 9 to 83·1 years (82·7–83·5) for America 1. The gap between Americas with the lowest and highest life expectancies increased to 13·9 years (12·6–15·2) in 2010, 15·8 years (14·4–17·1) in 2019, 18·9 years (17·7–20·2) in 2020, and 20·4 years (19·0–21·8) in 2021. The trends over time in life expectancy varied by America, leading to changes in the ordering of the Americas over this time period. America 10 was the only America to experience substantial declines in life expectancy from 2000 to 2019, and experienced the largest declines from 2019 to 2021.

The three Black Americas (Americas 6, 7, and 9) all experienced relatively large increases in life expectancy before 2020, and thus all three had higher life expectancy than America 10 by 2006, despite starting at a lower level in 2000. By 2010, the increase in America 6 was sufficient to also overtake America 8, which had a relatively flat trend from 2000 to 2019. America 5 had relatively similar life expectancy to Americas 3 and 4 in 2000, but a faster rate of increase in life expectancy from 2000 to 2019, and thus higher life expectancy in 2019; however, America 5 experienced a much larger decline in 2020, reversing this advantage. In some cases, these trends varied substantially by sex and age group.

There were also large differences in income and educational attainment among the ten Americas, but the patterns in these variables differed from each other and from the patterns in life expectancy in some notable ways. For example, America 3 had the highest income in most years, and the highest proportion of high-school graduates in all years, but was ranked fourth or fifth in life expectancy before 2020.

[KarlT]

The Covid skew makes the right side of the chart inaccurate.

[RapamycinCurious]

No it doesn’t. A lot of people died, and that lowered life expectancy.

[KarlT]

I disagree. It lowered average age of death of current population. It did not change how long someone born in 2021 will live.

[RapAdmin]

Perhaps the current “healthcare system” is part of the problem with poor life expectancy in the US.

Given the memes on social media this week, it seems people are saying something to this effect. Other countries may be having issues with their healthcare, but I don’t think the citizens are shooting the leaders of the companies who are ostensibly providing the healthcare…

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[Beth]

My immediate comment after hearing about the shooting was, I’m sure I know why the shooter did it and am in no way surprised. I’m sure millions of other people put it all together within seconds, too. And to your good point, that is a sad state of affairs.