RapAdmin
#271
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Paul
#272
If plastics kill you, I should be a dead man. Worked 40 years in chemical plants that produced billions of pounds of plastic.
I’ve worked in nylon, polyester, Teflon (great source of PFOA), Delrin (polymerized formaldehyde), Corian and Lucite manufacturing and labs.
Most of these processes would extrude the polymer then cut it into particles - the air was often filled with plastic dust.
Had my plastics level checked by the Blueprint test - not sure if this is a good or bad results
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Bicep
#273
Looks pretty average. The only reason it goes up at the end is because 100+ is a bigger range. Blood (it seems to me) turns over pretty fast and probably gives an indication of recent exposure?
I feel the same about Roundup herbicide. I’ve been using it since the 1970’s and maybe 300 gallons a year for the last decades. The only person I know with that cancer does everything organic and never has sprayed roundup. Go figure. Biology is weird.
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Davin8r
#274
But this kind of anecdotal evidence is the worst kind of evidence and the most potentially misleading. It’s like saying my uncle smoked 6 packs/day for 50 years and never got lung cancer, therefore cigarettes must not cause lung cancer.
Some people get lucky despite their individual risks and the environment, and some people get lung cancer despite never smoking, but we’re all playing the odds.
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AnUser
#275
How does this analogy make sense when you don’t have the same evidence for microplastics as there is for smoking?
You can always find studies on microplastic exposure in factories.
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Beth
#276
I’ve had this one for years, but I also wanted to share something similar to the bougie option I find myself reaching for more often due to ease of use/cleaning.
https://www.amazon.com/Bodum-K11239-16-Yo-Yo-Strainer-Chrome/dp/B007HYYHLU?th=1
EDIT: I found a better option to the one I use with a glass cup. Better price and then you are not married to the little cup it comes with.
This is nice because it looks like you can use it with a huge mug or even a teapot, if desired. I see other options available, too
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Davin8r
#277
Because the point is that anecdotal evidence shouldn’t affect the judgement of cause/effect at all (either for or against).
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AnUser
#278
But you didn’t have to use a smoking analogy.
The null hypothesis is that microplastics have no relationship with human health and it still stands until proven otherwise.
Davin8r
#279
Nope, but I did. You don’t have to like it.
Bicep
#280
Correct, but when you buy it most of the time here it is in a bag. I don’t know how they can call it Matcha but they do.
adssx
#281
That’s totally correct. And that was also the case at some point for smoking. Back then the null hypothesis was that it was neutral for health (some even claimed it was healthy!). Back then I’m sure many people were saying “Smoking can’t be bad, look x has been smoking all their life and is still alive and kicking” (survivor bias). So when @Davin8r mentions the smoking analogy I see it as a useful reference and reminder of the past debate on smoking: we can’t rely on anecdotal evidence.
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https://www.plasticlist.org/ came out. No more Almond Breeze almond milk (tho I’ve been instinctually aversive to it despite its low cost). And I guess Stanford dhall food is full of plasticizers.
O Organics eggs are the only plasticizer-free food tested… But sparkling water from La Crosse doesn’t have those [still, the cans are lined with plastics.]
Tragically, this report is not very useful for me, b/c it overindexes on processed food and focuses more on phlatates/plasticizers than actual microplastics/nanoplastics.
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Beth
#283
Wow, this is very interesting, if not a bit scary! THX for the share.
How random…I see they tested Tartine coffee!!! I was happily drinking their almond milk lattes last weekend!
When we see coffee or even blueberries being high in deph, should we assume that is mostly from their containers, or do you think there is something in the product itself?
RapAdmin
#284
Yes - though we still need a lot more research on the effects of these things on the human body, dose/response relationships, etc.
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It’s surprising that Wild Planet tuna is so high on the list. I buy sardines and mackerel from this brand and wonder if I should assume the same levels. Unfortunately, they only tested tuna.
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^this has really been making the news. It’s easier just to bring some edible enough tea leaves with you and eat them [some strains of tea leaves are edible enough]. I need a good “normie excuse” for not drinking tea from teabags every again and I guess this is it, the alarms have been raised.
[tbf i’ve already been taking the tea out of the teabags and eating them for a few years now, but sometimes others won’t let you do it when preparing tea for you, also I vomited on one set of MILA tea leaves]
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