From the company:
Biograph, the world’s most advanced preventive health and diagnostics clinic, today announced its formal public launch and mission to drive meaningful advances in human healthspan and lifespan. Biograph takes an evidence-based approach to precision medicine, collecting over 1,000 data points from up to 30+ evaluations, to provide the industry’s most personalized care plan for its members. The company is currently operating in the San Francisco Bay Area with plans to expand globally and open its second clinic in New York City in Q1 2025.
Full press release here:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250227400955/en/
Company Website: https://www.biograph.com/
rickyf
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The memberships are a bit pricey, IMO. $7500 and $15000, per year I believe. I’m not thinking of joining even if they bring an office to the Research Triangle where I live.
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Paul
#3
goodness and I did not even see a full body MRI in the $7500 tier. Fountain Health is 19,500
I think there is a market for people who do not want this overblown stuff and can assess the tests themselves
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I wouldn’t expect any less from Attia on the price point issue
. If I remember well, this is just a fraction of what he charges for his concierge service.
Assuming you get unlimited scans/visits , this could be a good deal for people like the longevity guy on Twitter. There would at least be more rigorousness around data collection, wjuhx is something he’s lacking.
Beth
#6
I looked into this when it first came out. I asked them if I could skip and get credit for the things I didn’t need to repeat because they were already done, and they said nope.
The fact they had zero flexibility gave me the impression this was going to be very formulaic and would not provide the customized care their price tag should accompany.
I could have been wrong, but that was a non starter for me.
EDIT: I just looked at my emails with them. I even told them I just had some of the same testing done at UCSF in the past year for over 10k and asked could I skip those and have them integrate those results into their program… answer: nope. To me that is not high level health care and nothing personalized about it. It screamed money grab.
@qBx123Yk a couple of years ago, Attia was charging 150k. At least a couple of his patients said ‘it was a rip off’
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Not good for the longevity of my wallet, and the benefits are doubtful.
https://www.michiganmedicine.org/health-lab/whole-body-mris-arent-beneficial-they-seem
“There is a reason that there is no cancer society, radiology society, or credited medical society that recommends whole-body MRI screening in asymptomatic healthy patients without risk factors,” said Davenport.
“It is not a safe and effective way to detect potential ailments early in the average healthy person.”
Most radiologists would not recommend patients have a whole-body MRI, unless there’s a medical history that proves otherwise.
“Imaging is appropriate for patients who have a genetic risk of life-threatening cancer or have a sign or symptom of significant disease,” said Davenport. “Balancing risks and benefits is best suited through a conversation between a patient and their health care provider.”
When it comes to the general population, Davenport says ignorance is bliss.
“Many patients will have indeterminate findings within their bodies that will appear on a whole-body MRI,” Davenport said.
“Typically, they aren’t cause for concern, but the uncertainty induced by identifying them often results in extensive diagnostic workups with little benefit and the potential for harm. For majority of patients, the harms of this approach outweigh the benefits.”
The rest of the tests, labcorp provides.
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José
#8
Created by VC group, Attia just a “Banner Name” for $$$.
You really think they {VC] are for your best interest?
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Beth
#9
It is definitely controversial and I get why it’s not universally recommended, but I will say a friend was just diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer, so I think well there is one life it would have saved.
But cost is a huge barrier, and if it finds non consequential things, it can cause too much stress for many people. Of course it can miss things too. I just had one and they missed the spot on my lung and thyroid that I know are there. It did find a spot on my pancreas, so now I know to follow up on that next year just to be safe.
@Joseph EXACTLY
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You need a whole body scan for that? Or a targeted one?
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Beth
#11
If you mean as my follow up for my pancreas next year, yes, just a targeted one.
I will be doing a scan of just my pancreas, with contrast, and not of anything else. I won’t be doing another whole body MRI for many years. PS no one thinks my pancreas is anything bad, but that is one of the scarier cancers, so they recommend this one test in a year just to be sure.
My thyroid and lung spots have been stable for over 5 years, so my doc said I no longer need to watch those. I personally wouldn’t say never, but they won’t be on a schedule. My thyroid was enough to have biopsied because it quickly grew in a short period of time a decade ago, but it’s been stable ever since.
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I meant the friend with pancreatic cancer. If the MD could travel back in time, I doubt he/she would have recommended a whole body MRI, even if the friend could afford it. A targeted MRI would have been ordered earlier, and maybe some other tests.
I still fail to see the value of a whole body MRI, with “just in case” as the basis. It would indicate a clueless MD flailing about.
And with hypochondriac me, it would be the stress that would affect my lifespan.
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Jay
#13
Concerning the thyroid are you hypothyroid? If so, do you think treatment may have stopped the growth of the spot you noted?
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Beth
#14
Yes, I am hyporthyroid and have been on medication since first discovering this at age 29.
I assume this means that my nodule discovered in my late 40s was not affected by my treatment? I don’t really understand much about it.
Dr. Peter Attia is growing his footprint in the multi-billion-dollar longevity market.
This month, the longevity enthusiast announced that his Silicon Valley-based company, Biograph, has officially launched publicly and will open a second location in New York City this quarter. Alongside CEO and cofounder John Hering, who has reportedly donated large sums to Elon Musk’s startups per the Wall Street Journal, Attia is increasing his presence in the biohacking market for those looking to extend their lives. The market is a ripe place for Silicon Valley elites who are flocking to learn the lessons of living longer. “Think of it as the most advanced executive physical in the world focused on optimizing healthspan and lifespan,” the Biograph’s website reads, appealing to the success-focused leaders who have an eye on protecting more than their business ventures.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/diseases-and-conditions/dr-peter-attia-s-7-500-a-year-biohacking-clinic-attracted-silicon-valley-now-he-s-betting-on-the-wealthy-elite-of-new-york-city/