#67

I did buy some kefir grains, but unfortunately I did not know they are different for water and milk. I am waiting for the right ones to arrive. I will definitely try it.

#68

I’d still use the regular ones to make kefir to drink. It’s not for topical use though as it’s got the color and consistency of a frothy yogurt— unless you use it as a mask. But much more bang for the buck to eat than smear.

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#93

Guys, I’m dropping all supp’s and pills and going full-fledged carnivore. Can’t ignore it any longer man, when you see average joe blows looking 20 years younger than their real age. Maybe we are chasing the wrong elixir lol. No disrespect whatsoever, but from the pics posted on these boards I have not seen one (including myself) that looks at best maybe 2-5 years younger than real age. Don’t take me wrong you all look great, but dude compared to this guy, not even close man, sorry! Actually @desertshores looks pretty good for his ripe age of 82 but it is my understating that he’s been a lion for while also. If it wasn’t for something weird with his neck (when he speaks) I would NOT give him one day over 45 and the dude is a 65-year-old grandfather!

You may want to check this dude at 65 and do what he does!
65-Year-Old Man Defies Aging with Carnivore Diet: His Astonishing Transformation! (youtube.com)

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#94

Well that’s a sample of one. Overall high animal protein diet is not known to prolong healthy lifespan. Mediterranean diet is. The keys thing is moderation and sticking to medically proven principles. Myself I don’t each much meat if any, very little protein actually, and I have been doing so for a few decades. I prefer instead salads, granola and nuts. I do look like somebody and more importantly move and have body flexibility of, who is 35 years younger than my chrono age. Much younger looking than this guy in a video you posted a link to. Does it prove anything after all it is just a sample of one?

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#95

Post a picture please, I can’t believe you for one second that you look like somebody 35 years younger. I’ve heard so many claims of people say oh I look 30 years younger, and 20 years younger etc. and when they post their pics, they barely look younger than their age. Until you post a o pic of yourself can’t believe you, sorry!
Actually, it is not a sample of one there is few, but one I remember was an 82-year-old lady that looked easily 20 years younger than her age. Not advocating for carnivore but simply stating that these results can’t be ignored, so I want to give it a try myself.

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#96

ok, mon ami. Here it is. I don’t like posting pics. I’m doing it so that you don’t get mislead by youtube science

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. Pic was taken very recently. This is my natural hair color and not tinted.

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#97

How old are you though? You definitely look good, I’d say early 40’s if did not know anything about you (just going by the pic) And I’d say you do actually look younger than the dude on the video. At least I can’t be accused of not being realistic, just to make a point. .lol

If you are anywhere near 60, please do post a very detailed list of the foods you eat, supplements you take, and exercise/physical activity you do. Might help people in forums, or as you scandinavians go “it would help the common good” :joy::joy: thanks,

#98

I’m in the mid-sixties. I did a bunch of posts throughout about what I eat and on my philosophy on supplements and medicines, which is less is more. I really eat what I like. No mysteries here. I start off a day with a couple of cups of ice coffee at Starbucks and will snack on some dark chocolate walnuts or peanuts from Sprouts. Then I have my main meal of a day, a late lunch. which is often the salad with olive oil. The pic of which I included. After that sometimes a half a cup of milk or yogurt and then nothing else. That’s it usually it for a day.

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#99

Interesting, so much for carnivore then hahaa., what about supplements, do you take any on daily basis/regularly? how about exercise? I must assume with such “bird” food portions you can’t afford to task your body with much exercise, do you? and are you doing RAPA yet? Sorry for bombardment of questions, but as noted earlier when I see real results (not make believe ones) I’m very interested in knowing what people do, that seems to be working so well for them.

#100

Someone should make a video like Shawn Baker but eating sourdough bread instead of steak.

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#101

Yes, I take supplements daily: krill oil, magnesium glycinate and K-2
I also take 10 mg rapa once a week. That said I have not seen much difference with or without rapamycin. I exercise daily in the mornings: pushups, crunches, leg squats and stretches. In the evenings I do one hour brisk walks. As you pointed out, it sometimes may get challenging to do evening walks. In my case because I feel a bit hungry. That said once I got going I don’t feel hungry anymore. As far as I can tell there is no muscle loss and my body looks pretty much the same as it looked in my twenties. No big muscles, though : )

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#103

I feel for you man, having to eat this everyday it’s probably torture in first degree :joy::joy:. Sorry I’m going to go with steak for a while and see what happens.

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#104

I agree. There is certainly a tradeoff between gluttony and abstemiousness.
Food is one of life’s joys. I don’t care what someone eats, but if it is too restrictive it’s not for me.

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#105

Rather that focusing on restricing calories, maybe it’s a better idea to maximize calories out by lifting/growing muscle, using supplements/medication that increase energy consumption/body temperature (caffeine, pqq, ashwaganda…) or interfere with the body’s ability to efficiently absorb resources (acarbose, empagliflozin…).
At least that’s my personal goal as I feel really, really miserable when restricting my calories.

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#106

If it works for you then go for it! As I said, I eat what I really like. Basically the same food in similar quantities for the last 4+ decades. Also when I eat a little bit less than others, I don’t feel deprived.

#107

Lifting/growing muscles is a very reasonable alternative. Taking meds that increase energy consumption even if such meds exist in my view is not an optimal route. Easier route. Sure. But side effects. Hmmm… Now growing muscles through weightlifting is an interesting and very valid alternative for healthspan. However, there is no empirical evidence that the “growth” of any type including muscles prolongs lifespan in any organism. Healthspan, sure. I can buy into that. Max lifespan. No way. Just take a look at the list on the wikepedia of the longest persons alive. All petite woman who were active through their life; but, never frequented places like Gold’s gym. In summary I’m interested in max longevity and health; hence, my approach doesn’t focus on muscle building but rather on maintenance and max healthy lifespan.

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#108

Oh common, you can’t possibly be serious that is the food you enjoy. I mean I understand if you were to say this the food that has proven to be real healthy for you, but to enjoy it? Look at the picture again and tell me one ingredient in there that a human being (anyone not just you) can enjoy eating it lol. I guess you probably get used to it after a while and then it tastes just fine.

#109

There’s nothing wrong with that salad, it’s definitely a healthy variant of a meal. I would just improvise a little more and add some color to it, like in the attached pic.

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It’s a small plate, but has many ingredients: sockeye salmon, murasaki potatoe, carrots. onion, tofu, turmeric, English peas, cranberries, olive oil, apple cider vinegar, mustard and chia seeds.

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#110

That’s a fair comment. If I were to speculate, it may have something to do with the food I ate growing up and what I got used to. I’m also a creature of habit so I kind of get used to what I eat. Now food in Europe while back and I still think this is the case today was just so much less processed and more natural. Hearty breads, vegetables, etc. People ate meat with dinners; sure, but portions were much smaller than in America. Also some pastry / ice cream etc. was easily accessible but tasted different than American version. Less sweet. So to be honest, I have zero craving for donuts or muffins, etc. Dark chocolate and nuts. Sure, eat them everyday. All that said I can imagine if somebody grew up on a different diet than they may find what I eat not tasty and challenging to follow.

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#111

Yummy! I do rotate of course and try different vegetables and fish too. My body actually will guide me in what it wants and I just follow it.