I think it is usually recommended through the sixties. The risks increase if done in more aggressive manner. Everybody’s response is individual. Also rapamycin if it really works on you, would slow down the aging and improve your recovery which allow you to benefit from micro needling or conceptually related procedures like ellacor even after your sixties?
eli
#83
Sounds excellent - I will keep you posted too 
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I just read about tixel and besides results, i like the fact that it is one purchase only - no further purchases / hassle afterwards. In the meantime am trying to read up about it so as to be informed once I eventually end up buying one.
As proposed elsewhere, I would also be interested in sharing a device but since am based in Spain I doubt I can find someone else in the neighbourhood ( but if yes do let me know )
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Chloe
#84
Not a machine, but I posted Here about me & my husbands experience using polynucleotides with his before & after pics. It worked nicely for us both!
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I really want a Tixel, but the only “review” I can find of a knockoff is this reddit post that gives me pause. More detail in the comments.
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People can blame the knockoff device but they probably didn’t read the instructions. There’s settings for depth and duration of contact and if they don’t tweak those accordingly things can get weird. DIY isn’t for everyone.
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Highly likely. Would you have confidence in one of the knockoffs? I’m very tempted.
I use nothing but “knockoffs.” What’s more I know there’s no difference between them and the genuine article other than price, someone’s logo, and that someone’s arbitrage profits off my purchase. The brand name products are all made in the same Chinese factory, purchased in bulk, with the buyer getting to specify its own logo and marketing inserts.
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Excellent! I had assumed they were maybe inferior clones made in some other factory. Thanks for the info.
eli
#90
1.191,28€ 20％ Off | Novoxel Tixel 2 Thermal Fractional Mezotix Machine With Two Handle Pigment Scar Wrinkle Stretch Removal Machine
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJXb6Rl
This is the cheapest one found so far (but shipping and customs and tax would be 600 USD more for me)
Contrary to what title says it is for one Handle as 2 handles would be around 500 Euro ( and more shipping) I wonder though if handle may be the same anyway for face and body)
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LaraPo
#91
The one with 1 handle ($1029) is advertised as free shipment. 1 handle is probably for face, but there’s nothing in the description.
eli
#92
Yes but upon asking I understand that this is excluding vat and customs : specifically asking for shipment DDP to my place of residence in Spain , around 600 USD were added. So I may wait a bit more if sth more interesting arrives …
I saw on pictures ( of another seller I think) that one was indeed labelled as face ( the left one) and the right one as “ body “ ; I haven’t got to asking info on this yet … ( but given that there are settings and that they seem to indicate only “ one “ or “ two handles” , for personal use one handle may be enough and could be used for all if needed)
PS update: I just got back answer on my question to seller on this and he replied the size of the handles is the same but settings are different - communication in English is not their strongest point so will check with other sellers too.
From a video from another seller, i see the settings to choose from are indeed different:
face: ms from 5 to 16, body : ms from 8 to 20
face: um 200-800 ; body : um 600 to 1200
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SNK
#93
Guys, I’m dropping all supp’s and pills and going full-fledged carnivore. Can’t ignore it any longer man, when you see average joe blows looking 20 years younger than their real age. Maybe we are chasing the wrong elixir lol. No disrespect whatsoever, but from the pics posted on these boards I have not seen one (including myself) that looks at best maybe 2-5 years younger than real age. Don’t take me wrong you all look great, but dude compared to this guy, not even close man, sorry! Actually @desertshores looks pretty good for his ripe age of 82 but it is my understating that he’s been a lion for while also. If it wasn’t for something weird with his neck (when he speaks) I would NOT give him one day over 45 and the dude is a 65-year-old grandfather!
You may want to check this dude at 65 and do what he does!
65-Year-Old Man Defies Aging with Carnivore Diet: His Astonishing Transformation! (youtube.com)
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Well that’s a sample of one. Overall high animal protein diet is not known to prolong healthy lifespan. Mediterranean diet is. The keys thing is moderation and sticking to medically proven principles. Myself I don’t each much meat if any, very little protein actually, and I have been doing so for a few decades. I prefer instead salads, granola and nuts. I do look like somebody and more importantly move and have body flexibility of, who is 35 years younger than my chrono age. Much younger looking than this guy in a video you posted a link to. Does it prove anything after all it is just a sample of one?
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SNK
#95
Post a picture please, I can’t believe you for one second that you look like somebody 35 years younger. I’ve heard so many claims of people say oh I look 30 years younger, and 20 years younger etc. and when they post their pics, they barely look younger than their age. Until you post a o pic of yourself can’t believe you, sorry!
Actually, it is not a sample of one there is few, but one I remember was an 82-year-old lady that looked easily 20 years younger than her age. Not advocating for carnivore but simply stating that these results can’t be ignored, so I want to give it a try myself.
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ok, mon ami. Here it is. I don’t like posting pics. I’m doing it so that you don’t get mislead by youtube science
. Pic was taken very recently. This is my natural hair color and not tinted.
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SNK
#97
How old are you though? You definitely look good, I’d say early 40’s if did not know anything about you (just going by the pic) And I’d say you do actually look younger than the dude on the video. At least I can’t be accused of not being realistic, just to make a point. .lol
If you are anywhere near 60, please do post a very detailed list of the foods you eat, supplements you take, and exercise/physical activity you do. Might help people in forums, or as you scandinavians go “it would help the common good” 
thanks,
I’m in the mid-sixties. I did a bunch of posts throughout about what I eat and on my philosophy on supplements and medicines, which is less is more. I really eat what I like. No mysteries here. I start off a day with a couple of cups of ice coffee at Starbucks and will snack on some dark chocolate walnuts or peanuts from Sprouts. Then I have my main meal of a day, a late lunch. which is often the salad with olive oil. The pic of which I included. After that sometimes a half a cup of milk or yogurt and then nothing else. That’s it usually it for a day.
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SNK
#99
Interesting, so much for carnivore then hahaa., what about supplements, do you take any on daily basis/regularly? how about exercise? I must assume with such “bird” food portions you can’t afford to task your body with much exercise, do you? and are you doing RAPA yet? Sorry for bombardment of questions, but as noted earlier when I see real results (not make believe ones) I’m very interested in knowing what people do, that seems to be working so well for them.
AnUser
#100
Someone should make a video like Shawn Baker but eating sourdough bread instead of steak.
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JKPrime
#101
Yes, I take supplements daily: krill oil, magnesium glycinate and K-2
I also take 10 mg rapa once a week. That said I have not seen much difference with or without rapamycin. I exercise daily in the mornings: pushups, crunches, leg squats and stretches. In the evenings I do one hour brisk walks. As you pointed out, it sometimes may get challenging to do evening walks. In my case because I feel a bit hungry. That said once I got going I don’t feel hungry anymore. As far as I can tell there is no muscle loss and my body looks pretty much the same as it looked in my twenties. No big muscles, though : )
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