Dr.Bart
#45
that too, no vaccine is 0% effective and none of the vaccines are 100% effective
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RapMet
#46
LOL got it. I literally got it wrong first time around.
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What’s his problem with fluoride? That being said, there are more cases of fluorosis than decades before because of over fluoridation.
I’d have a look at a couple of videos on Fluoride.
It’s worth giving a think about for sure.
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AnUser
#50
Is there any benefit avoiding flouride consumtion in adulthood, including toothpaste? Bryan Johnson seems to be doing well without it.
LaraPo
#51
Do we know that he is doing well without it? He has a full mouth of veneers.
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Here is what AI (Vera-Health.ai) says on this in regard to adults … interesting other angle with increased risk of fractures …
Fluoride is widely recognized for its dental health benefits, particularly in preventing dental caries. However, excessive fluoride exposure in adults can lead to several health risks. One of the most significant concerns is skeletal fluorosis, a condition characterized by increased bone density, joint pain, and stiffness. A systematic review and meta-analysis indicated a nearly linear relationship between fluoride exposure and the occurrence of skeletal fluorosis, even at relatively low concentrations in drinking water 1.
Additionally, fluoride exposure is associated with an increased risk of bone fractures. A dose-response meta-analysis revealed a positive non-linear association between fluoride in drinking water and bone fracture risk, suggesting that public health actions should aim to keep fluoride levels below 1.5 mg/L 2. The effects of fluoride on bone density are complex; while low levels may increase bone density, higher levels could lead to a decrease, particularly in females 3.
Beyond skeletal issues, there are potential neurodevelopmental effects associated with fluoride exposure. Although the evidence in adults is less clear, a systematic review noted that higher fluoride exposures are consistently associated with lower IQ in children 8.
Fluoride exposure sources extend beyond drinking water. For instance, tea consumption can be a significant source of fluoride intake, with varied levels found in different types of tea, posing a potential risk of fluorosis in certain populations 4. Additionally, soft drinks have been identified as another source of fluoride exposure 5.
In conclusion, while fluoride has undeniable dental benefits, its use must be carefully managed to avoid adverse health effects. Public health guidelines recommend maintaining fluoride levels in drinking water below 1.5 mg/L to minimize risks such as skeletal fluorosis and bone fractures. Given the potential neurodevelopmental impacts, particularly in children, and the varying responses in adults, continuous monitoring and tailored public health strategies are essential to balance fluoride’s benefits and risks.
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AnUser
#53
Well I’d have to look into it more. For now I am happy with my stannous fluoride which has numerous benefits.
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LukeMV
#54
I also have been avoiding fluoride in recent years. I’m not sure there’s much concern in a small amount in toothpaste but I still use Hydroxyapatite instead. Who knows, maybe I’m missing out by not using fluoride to brush, but the fact that the effects of fluoride are so highly debated is reason enough for me to pause its use. I have also invested in a good water filter so I avoid tap water as much as I can.
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KarlT
#55
There might be too much focus here on the vaccine issue. I really doubt Kennedy would be able to change much. There would still be recommendations from Medical organizations, there would still be requirements from school districts, and any federal law would have to get through congress.
I’m just hoping he could shake up nutrition guidelines, and fix the broken government agencies.
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Dr.Bart
#56
I always wondered why put the fluoride in the water, if you can just put it directly on your teeth via toothpaste? You literally polish the teeth with fluoride. What is the advantage of ingesting the fluoride for dental care vs. just using fluoride in your mouth via mouthwash or toothpaste without ingestion (maybe some trace amounts).
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Beth
#57
I’m just one person, but I probably haven’t used fluoride in 30 years. I wasn’t anti fluoride, but the toothpaste I wanted didn’t contain it.
In that time, I’ve had one cavity and no other dental work, aside from replacing a few old fillings.
(cavity was due to my year of having chocolate edibles before bed after I brushed!, duh!).
jakexb
#58
$XBI, the biotech index for the stock market that includes early stage research companies, tanked immediately upon news today that RFK might be head of HHS. So if you want to know what the market thinks about how much he’ll support actual science, there you have it.
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It’s so over for Americans and for the pharma industry.
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AnUser
#63
At least we have regulations in Europe! Here they can come and grow the economy!
GDPR and Cookie disclaimers protecting us every day, as well as the great protection by jailing people for speech or banning parties. 
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Of course I also absolutely hate and despise our politicians for getting us into this situation. Degrowth promoters should start by degrowing themselves.
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