I like having a few 50g protein meals daily. People can either gain, maintain, or lose weight using 50g protein meals as well.
Regarding HMB, I’ve tried it. Was not too impressed. Was more impressed with 50g of whey protein (or a extra lean protein source like chicken or plant protein powders) at a meal esp for the cost to performance aspect.
HMB is not cheap.
The other issue with adding HMB or other amino supplements such as BCAA’s (and perhaps leucine) is that it can lower dopamine and serotonin. More day time sluggishness.
Could consider adding more phenylalanine over tyrosine (at least for daytime amino type energy) as @DeStrider posted about recently on tyro vs phen issue.
I forget to add in that thread, that DL-phenylalanine is another cool amino acid as it is said to also boost endorphins. Not sure if that is 100% positive but it has good reviews on the DL version.
I didn’t like the D version as much, but I did like the L version and DL version.
There are probably a lot of other obscure aminos available.
So having all the aminos (like in meats, dairy etc), it’s probably the best options for amino balance.
Though, can also use a day vs night time amino ratio and maybe lower dopamine at night to get a better sleep… perhaps by adding more BCAA’s and/or collagen or glycine or taurine etc… stuff with low to no tyrosine, phenylalanine or other aminos that can boost certain energy pathways.
Creatine, beta alanine, citrulline, Gly/NAC are other good amino products to add to a big shake or meal.
Just be sure to get a high quality complete protein supplement as there’s been various consumer testing regarding heavy metals and/or not what’s on label in terms of amino acids or total protein etc.
3rd party tested supplements are a good option or web sites who test certain brands.
I think it’s a good way to do meal planning like 3 meals a day at 50g protein a meal, and adjust what % carbs and fats you want to add to it. Or even 2, 4, or 5 meals etc… and adjust the calories as what you are looking to accomplish with weight or muscle etc.
Another thing is the digestion time of various protein powders and amino supplements.
They might only last 1-2 hours for fast acting: whey isolate, whey hydrolysate, isolated amino acids.
So then one can mix various proteins together for a longer time for MPS, such as casein protein, whey concentrate etc.
There are graphs online that show the various digestion times of these.
Personally, I would pick these supplements for muscle, fitness, longevity in this order:
-whey protein concentrate (or whey isolate and micellar casein, though more $, or plant or collagen etc)
-multi vitamin & mineral (maybe extra vit D)
-creatine
-glucosamine (maybe with chondroitin) seems to test well in some longevity studies.
-not sure on the other rankings but isolated fats: omega 3 dha/epa or lecithin, gla etc,
plant extracts(protandim style, astaxanthin, or whatever you like), isolated amino acids, probiotics or prebiotics, various OTC hormones melatonin, dhea etc, isolated carbohydrates(complex, simple, fiber etc),
if at a pharmacy store can also consider NSAID’s, anti histamines, or anything else you like or tests well in longevity and/or muscles.
Prescription meds might include: testosterone, thyroid, hgh or igf-1, insulins, deca/nandrolone or other anabolic steroid, 5-AR inhibitors, metformin, glp1’s, cardiovascular meds, blood pressure meds, pde5-i’s,
whatever you enjoy really 