#62

Yes, I have been using it on and off since 2011. It works well for muscle building if you take it with anabolic steroids but not as much on its own. It definitely increases lean mass and body composition either way though. It also depends on the dose. I’m only on a low “anti aging” dose now (2.5iu) alongside a TRT regimen so it keeps me full and prevents some fat gain.

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#63

Thank you for your response. Is it 2.5iu daily?

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#64

That’s correct. Before bed. Sometimes I go up to 3iu though.

In my heavy juicing days in my mid 20s, I went as high as 10iu per day, which I would definitely not recommend for anyone for any reasons

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#65

I’m noticing the exact opposite on tesamorelin / ipamorelin. In the “feels” department, my recover has been amazing, I’ve been able to lift heavier weights, and I’m sleeping better. I will have hard numbers at the end of my cycle. So, not completely useless :joy:.

And yes, I’m sure I could have done better with hgh.

#66

Did both for a while (about three months) and absolutely Zero effect. Stopped and looking to start HGH and see if it makes a difference. Also did few others and couldn’t notice a difference at all. Maybe I’m the type that doesn’t respond to peptides. Surprisingly, GLP1’s did work well for losing weight and suppressing appetite. As for the rest of them, it was money thrown on a fire-pit (for me). LOL

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#67

The thing is there seems to be a point of diminishing returns with gh secretagogues like that. If you really want gains, you can push the HGH to a high enough dose that it will blow these things out of the water.

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#68

My mind immediately goes to taking that AND exercising to get double effects.

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#70

Pretty amazing… and I concur, this medication with muscle resistance will provide the best results for lean muscle growth and maintenance.

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#71

Hoping these meds initially go to those who need it rather than bros in the gym.

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#72

Here’s how it will go:

  • studies on people who need it
  • gym bros buy it off grey/black market before public release
  • human trials successful and people who need it get it prescribed
  • gym bros keep using grey market
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#73

You didn’t mention the wealthy who somehow get it so that millionaires, athletes and entertainers all of a sudden look like gym bros.

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