Some things are not easily measured but that doesn’t mean they don’t work or provide a benefit. Since our body makes about 7,000 peptides we know that without them we don’t exist, they are critical inter-system communicators, providing instructions on what happens in our body.

I’ve come to view them like dietary supplements and good food. As we age our body does not process things the way it used to, it does not produce important compounds we require to be healthy like it used to, and the internal comms become weaker.

So I supplement my declining peptides by adding them back in. Some are easily measured for benefit like I experienced with gonadorelin increasing my test.

My weight, as the miracle of GLP1-RA’s have changed my life.

My old injuries no longer being an issue as I age thanks to BPC 157 and TB 500/Goralitide. New injuries healing like I was a kid again. My immune system performance is more than good for a 69y/o thanks to our modified TRIIM protocol, TA-1 and LL 37 etc.

Endurance, strength, muscle tone, all improved with peptides.

Basically peptides are life, in my opinion.

As far as losing money in bio-tech, while that may be one good way to do that, I’ve experienced more than a few other ways LoL! I feel your pain :slight_smile:

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I totally agree. I’ve been a heavy user of peptides, in fact, I just finished another round of BPC 157, for a tendon issue, but I can’t ‘prove’ that it’s useful. I’ve used BPC 157b andTB4, and I still can’t say categorically that they work. I still have my tendon issues. it’s not that I don’t believe that work, it’s just that at this point I’m more interested in what I can measure.
SS 31 is interesting because it’s been said to improve HRV, and that is something I can track.

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Tim, it’s been a year since your post on Visoluten. Do you or your retina doc have any opinions on the effectiveness of Visoluten?

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Tendons are very slow to heal for a variety of reasons. Even after they appear to be healed and functional they are not fully healed.

This why I don’t do “rounds” or cycles of BPC+TB, I take them every morning for the past 20 months with a week off every 2 months. I take 500mcg of each

Also tendons heal better when there is hGH present, another reason I take Ipamorelin + CJC-1295 noDAC 5 nights a week for the past 20 months with a week or so off every couple months.

These 2 combinations have a lot of synergies related to healing. hGH and IGF-1 are very good at helping the body produce collagen which tendons need to heal. BPC activates hGH receptors in tendons, etc…

Tendons never repair to their previous condition, like all wounds. Deep cuts through muscle never heal to the same strength, wounds in skin never heal to the same strength. Tissue remodeling is very complex and anything that relies on elastin is not going to heal to the way it was previous to the injury.

Yes you can make tendons that have healed, stronger and larger with proper exercise and adequate nutrients present, but the injured area will never be as strong as it was before the injury.

I learned that from a couple of plastic surgeons I met when I was in the wound care industry in the 90’s

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Steve_Combi, I plan to use CJC-1295 (no DAC) 100 mcg SC before bed and Ipamorelin: 200 mcg SC before bed for a duration of 4 to 8 weeks to help insure good bone repair after a broken femur. If you have time I’d like to know your sources for CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin, as well as the needles for SC injection. And, your method of proper dilution of CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin, plus sterilization methods. I’m asking for a lot, but I’m short on research time at this point. Thanks.

Happy to help but it may get long so lets do this by private messages. After it’s all sorted out we could do a synopsis to post so it’s only one post :slight_smile:

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Paul, if you haven’t watched this interview, it’s absolutely worth your time if you’re suffering from chronic tendon injury:

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Hey thanks. I haven’t seen this, much appreciated.

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I took only one round, and the doc doesn’t know. I think bioregulators are a scam. Meanwhile, my vision has been stable at all of my biannual visits, both before and after Visoluten.

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Peptide Update

For me, TB Frag (1-4) is more effective than TB-500, the final seven-AA sequence, and more effective than the full 43-AA peptide. Dosing Frag (1-4) at 500 mcg per day keeps me pain free for a month, and then I cycle off for a month, during which the pain relief continues.

500-mg capsules of BPC-157, ordered from SwissChems, have done nothing for me. Maybe they were on-sale for a reason.

EOD injections of a TB/BPC/GHK-cu combo work well for me. I was lucky to buy several kits when the price was low.

Semak spikes my blood pressure by 15-20 points.

I have found that, at daily intranasal doses of 300 mcg, selank and epitalon do have cognitive benefits. But I still do stupid things.

I have bone-on-bone osteo in the knee, but it doesn’t hurt. The Mayo Clinic says that this is not unusual. Nevertheless, I frequently, almost daily, inject AOD-9604 into the sub-patellar space, trying to extend my staying power.

Today, I pulled a muscle and came up gimpy. Nothing makes you injury free.

When I was in the martial arts, I routinely went home from sparring with serious lumps and bruises. But I always had a secret sauce, a miracle in a bottle. Back then, I could buy Dit Da Jow, an amazing herbal analgesic, in Chinatown or at any martial arts store worthy of the name. The Dit Da Jow I’ve gotten from Amazon is nowhere near the same.

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This is injections, not oral correct?

Injections, yes. Unsuccessfully tried capsules of BPC-157.

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Has anyone found out what Klotho fragment Celia-health is selling-and are there any papers that show this fragment increases PF4? Even in a murine model?

From Keith in a different thread: (I am unable to share the link)

“Mystery solved, this product is not klotho protein. It is a small 33 amino acid peptide klotho fragment. Real a-klotho protein is 1,012 aminos. Which explains why the dose is not the same.”

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First of this week we started taking DSIP - delta sleep inducing peptide.

> Stage 3 NREM N3, slow-wave sleep (SWS), delta sleep, deep sleep 20 to 40 minutes

One of our clients has a watch that monitors sleep and his Delta sleep has increased from an average of 32 minutes to 51 minutes.

That was an interesting results so I’ve ordered 3 of those watches for myself, wife and 1 son :slight_smile:

The suggested dose range is 100mcg to 500mcg.

We started with a 200mcg dose for 2 nights, then 300mcg and then 400mcg. I don’t find any difference with a higher dose so last night went back down to 200mcg and seemed to get the same benefit.

We have both noticed a benefit. I typically get up once per night for a visit to the bat room :slight_smile: usually around 4am. I’ve been finding that I don’t fully wake up during my excursion and I barely remember going back to sleep as it happens so quickly.

My wife is a light sleeper (mother of 4 - although our youngest is now 41 the old habits are hard to shake). She is noticing a similar effect, any time she wakes she finds she is back to sleep without any effort.

This is not at all like a “sleeping pill”, theoretically it only affects the duration of Delta sleep. A very important part of the sleep cycle. Neither of us have felt “groggy” in the morning but I do feel more rested. I’ve been dealing with chronic pain from a sciatic issue for 2 moths now and that was having a negative impact on my typical “I sleep like a stone” thing.

Now I’m back sleeping like a stone, maybe even better than that. The pain is still there but does not seem to have the same effect on my sleep.

I forgot to mention this one. Since losing 55lb 2 years ago, my hands have been cold almost all the time. Yesterday evening I noticed they were not cold and they haven’t been cold since I started DSIP. Granted it’s a lot warmer but my hands were cold all the time, not just when I was out doors but at work, at home, all the time.

May have a direct or indirect effect on body temperature and alleviating hypothermia.[21][22][23]

Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide (DSIP) is a naturally occurring neuropeptide that was first isolated from rabbit brain in 1977. It is known for its ability to promote sleep, particularly characterized by an increase in the delta rhythm of the EEG (electroencephalogram), which is associated with slow-wave sleep. DSIP is a nonapeptide with the sequence Trp-Ala-Gly-Gly-Asp-Ala-Ser-Gly-Glu.

Here’s a more detailed look at DSIP:

Key Properties and Effects:

  • Promotes sleep:

DSIP is known to induce sleep, particularly slow-wave sleep, in various animal models, including rabbits, mice, rats, and cats.

  • Reduces motor activity:

When infused into the brain, DSIP can reduce motor activity in rabbits.

  • Diurnal variation:

DSIP concentrations in the brain and plasma exhibit a diurnal variation, with lower levels in the morning and higher levels in the afternoon.

  • Modulates hormone secretion:

DSIP may play a role in regulating the release of hormones like growth hormone and prolactin.

  • Potential therapeutic uses:

Studies have explored DSIP’s potential in treating insomnia, pain, and withdrawal symptoms, though results have been inconsistent.

  • Possible links to other conditions:

DSIP-like immunoreactivity has been studied in relation to major depressive disorder, Cushing’s syndrome, and Alzheimer’s disease.

Mechanism of Action:

  • Hypothalamus and brainstem:

DSIP is synthesized in the hypothalamus and targets multiple sites, including the brainstem.

  • HPA axis:

DSIP is believed to influence the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, which is involved in stress response.

  • Modulation of neurotransmitters:

DSIP may modulate neurotransmitter systems, potentially impacting sleep and other functions.

  • Potential role in other pathways:

DSIP may also be involved in pathways like the MAPK and PI3K/AKT pathways, as well as interacting with the glucocorticoid-induced leucine zipper (GILZ).

Current Research:

  • Ongoing research:

While DSIP has been studied for many years, its precise role in sleep regulation and other physiological processes is still not fully understood.

  • Conflicting results:

Studies on DSIP’s effects on sleep have produced somewhat inconsistent results, and further research is needed to clarify its role.

  • Potential for new treatments:

Despite the inconsistencies, DSIP’s potential in treating sleep disorders and other conditions continues to be explored.

In summary, Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide is a neuropeptide that plays a role in regulating sleep and potentially other physiological processes. While its exact mechanisms and clinical applications are still under investigation, it remains a focus of research in the fields of sleep, neurobiology, and potential therapeutic interventions.

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I never did notice any sleep changes on dsip, but epitalon worked great for me. I made my own nasal spray with both, and stayed around the 200 to 400 mcg dosage for both. These days, I’m having improved sleep on gh secretagogues, but the dsip and epitalon stack for improved sleep is something I want to revisit when I can.

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Same here. Epitalon spray is a great sleep inducer and enhancer. Plus, it seems to have cognitive benefits.

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Where do you guys buy your epithalon nasal spray? Do you have a link?

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Hi Steve,

Any advice on a good international supplier, to Australia, of DSIP and Epithalon?

Much appreciated!

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