FYI. Here is an interview I recently did with Mitchell Lee, PhD, CEO of Ora Biomedical. Ora is pursuing a goal of 1,000,000 chemicals studied in the next few years to find pharmaceuticals and natural products that are superior to rapamycin. If you follow Dr Lee on Twitter, you know that they are already having success. This is a bit outside of my normal podcast topics but is personally interesting to me as an older athlete so I am doing a few interviews in this area. Next up is an interview with Healthspan.
#95 â The Next Rapamycin?: Ora Biomedicalâs Million Molecule Moonshot w/CEO Mitchell Lee, PhD
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Sirt6
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! Thank you for this great potcast!
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âSuccessâ means they show blinded (no chemical names) lifespan extension results superior to rapamycin. Results in worms. I understand the chemicals used are FDA approved pharmaceuticals (approved for what I donât know).
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Long way to go from worms
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How else can they test 1M chemicals and combinations of chemicals in a short time? If they find something that works 2x better than rapamycin, theyâll be able to find money to work it. If itâs already FDA approved (for something else), weâll see it rapidly. This is the hope.
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I spoke to Dr. Miller about this. He said that unfortunately there are a lot of false positive and negative results with worms. BUT it does provide a basis for further testing in mammals.
Mice have a lot of false positives too though.
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KarlT
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Thatâs concerning. Sometimes it seems that with worms and flies, anything that causes stress, causes them to live longer.
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Itâs just normal as worms are missing a lot of our biology. Mice are closer but itâs not a perfect representation either.
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jakexb
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Definitely itâs just a first pass screen but I think here is the advantage: they can test stuff thatâs is way weirder than any other method could get funded. They can test nearly infinite combinations. They can test classes if drugs that have no longevity data at all. Give them 5 years and theyâll have a short list of 500 new ideas for further investigation that nobody ever even considered before.
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I completely agree! I am excited about the wormbot experiments. I think theyâll find a lot more interesting stuff faster than without. Also, I think M. Kaberlein is a fantastic researcher. I wish them all the best.
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Hereâs my interview with Healthspanâs Daniel Tawfik. I use them now (I pay in full), and have found them to be very helpful but more expensive than direct sourcing. Healthspan is definitely a good way to get started on this journey with a medical guide for support.
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How about rotifers (more closely related to people)
Great podcasts - thanks for sharing! Keep them coming.
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Thanks! I do have a few more in the works on this topic. Stay tuned!
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Another new podcast interview with Mitchell Lee of Ora Biomedical:
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