I have a surgical procedure coming up (I’ll be under sedation) and wondered if it would be prudent to stop taking Rapa (intermittent - 6mg/1x per week) for a few weeks prior - not sure if there are any studies out there that address any potential risks of post-surgery infection or recovery when taking rapalogues?

In my opinion (from a non-doctor) it would definitely be prudent to stop taking rapamycin a few weeks prior to any surgery. You want to get it out of your system so that there is no risk of delayed wound healing.

Here is some research below that I found when searching on “surgery and sirolimus”. This research is focused on transplant patients (who have to take rapamycin - so the bias is to balance the risk of organ rejection vs. recovery from surgery) but it nevertheless seems to have some good points. Since you have no risk of organ rejection (I’m assuming), you can be more conservative and get off rapamycin earlier, and restart it once you are fully healed.

But of course - discuss this with your doctor before you make any decisions.

Minor surgery

Simple uncomplicated wound-closures for skin and subcutaneous surgery, and surgery performed laparoscopically, are unlikely to be affected by the impaired wound-healing induced by sirolimus. It is recommended, therefore, that in this setting any current sirolimus treatment remains unchanged. However, if the patient has one or more of the risk factors identified for impaired wound-healing (Table 1), the advice would be to proceed with caution, and to consider lowering the dose in these particular patients. This approach is also recommended for hernia surgery, where healing of multiple tissue planes is required for successful repair.

Major surgery

The relatively long half-life of sirolimus necessitates that the drug is discontinued 5–10 days before planned major surgery in order to avoid any postsurgery complications such as impaired wound-healing, as described previously.

Steroid adjustment around surgery should follow standard published guidance in this area [39], or local protocols. If the patient is receiving a combination of sirolimus and mycophenolate without steroids, low dose steroid should be introduced following sirolimus discontinuation.

After surgery, we would recommend re-starting sirolimus treatment after 1–3 months, or when any courses of chemotherapy have finished.

Any deterioration in renal function should be promptly investigated and renal biopsies may be required to exclude an acute rejection episode in this setting. If there were to be a rejection episode in this setting, then treatment depending on the primary surgical problem will require to be carefully customized.

Emergency surgery

In the event of emergency surgery, sirolimus should be stopped as early as possible, again to limit any possible impaired wound-healing responses. As with major surgery, the use of steroids as immunosuppressants is recommended (Fig. 2). With respect to these recommendations, it may be noted that sirolimus could be re-started 5 days postsurgery: this should be sufficient time to avoid an impaired wound-healing response. In the case of emergent surgery necessitated by cancer, the line of recommendation set out for general major surgery from the point of differentiating cancer-related and cancer-unrelated surgery can be followed, although it should be borne in mind that such circumstances will necessitate case-by-case considerations.

Source:

In another paper… again, for transplant patients - so already you have a group of people taking many medications (frequently) and who may be quite sick:

When we began to use sirolimus for induction after KTx, we observed not only more frequent lymphoceles but also a higher rate of other surgical wound complications. Unfortunately, clinical sirolimus studies have mainly focused on immunologic efficacy and nonsurgical complications (1). In a case-control study, we compared surgical wound complications in recipients treated with and without sirolimus.

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Thank you for sharing those sources!

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In prepping for Robotic umbilical Hernia surgery, which I had yesterday, I stopped rapamycin for 11-12 days. I have been recovering rather well at home since last evening. I asked 2 health professionals at the hospital when the level of bacterial threat (supposedly somewhat higher in the hospital) would go back to normal threat? Both said in a couple of days (I think at least in part because they added some other protective medicine along with the anesthesia). I think that means I could go back on sirolimus in a couple of days. But I am planning to be a little bit cautious and wait until one week from the surgery date before starting back with my original low dose and gradually increasing. Would be interested in any comments; you don’t have to be an MD since the vast majority of them seem to know next to nothing about the anti-aging, pro-longevity field.

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I totally forgot I had surgery scheduled for today. I had two small (hopefully) precancerous skin marks on my body and a tiny early SCC on my forehead removed. Totally forgot husband made this appointment for me and in a hurry to be on time I forgot all about rapamycin and wound healing. Reading this probably wont be a big deal. I have some nitroglycerin ointment prepared for better healing. Would you recommend I skip Friday dose or I just continue?

What about other medications being used without prescription?

Telmisartan for blood pressure for instance.

FWIW, I’m having cervical spine surgery (ACDF), at the end of December, I intend to stop rapamycin, with the last dose (currently 10mg once a week) 13 days before surgery. Because the surgery involves a recovery period where spine segments are fusing over time, and rapamycin has been implicated in interfering with bone growth, I intend to hold off on the sirolimus for 3 months following the procedure and then go back to my regular 6mg once a week.

I also take telmisartan and empagliflozin. Because telmisartan is a BP lowering med, they ask you to stop it before surgery as there is some danger of a catastrophic hypotension - with telmi being so long lasting, the suggestion is to stop a week before, which is what I intend to do, and resume it about a week after the surgery (to make sure there is enough blood perfusion in the spine area, I don’t want to lower the BP too much too soon). Empagliflozin should be stopped about 3 days before surgery, especially if you are diabetic. I intend to stop it 5 days before surgery - but then I intend to not resume it until about 3 weeks past surgery - this is because of having a catherer inserted during surgery, which may cause some abrasions in the urinary track and general biome disruption; in this scenario you don’t want to bathe the area with sugar in your urine. I will resume empagliflozin roughly 3 weeks after the surgery. I also take pitavastatin, bempedoic acid + ezetimibe. There are no contraindications for these meds and surgery that I am aware of, but out of an abundance of caution, I intend to stop BA+EZ some 4 days before surgery and pitavastatin 24 hours before surgery - this because these meds are not in my medical file, and also just to make sure there is no chance of any interference with other drugs or anesthesia administered during the procedure.

One should also be careful with OTC supplements before surgery, I’ll be backing off most of them a few days before surgery except for vitamin K1+K2, D3, astaxanthin which I will stop 24 hours before.

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I’ve also just started empagliflozin and I take ezetimibe. Just started atenolol. Also on TRT. Ahh a lot to think about.

I’ll tell them about TRT since it is prescribed. I’m not crashing my hormones but I’ll probably lower the dose I’m taking a month prior so that things like blood pressure and hematocrit can normalize a bit.

I don’t want all of these non-prescribed things on my medical record as it might cause trouble for me down the line. I’ve got a lot of time until this surgery to figure it out.

I’m doing jaw surgery to eliminate sleep apnea. If it works I’m going to be very happy to sell my CPAP machine and never wear that damn mask again.

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