what do you mean by working differently? Actually, the GR7 product seems legit. I’m going to give it a try and will see… The ingredients also makes a lot of sense. Biotin, tyrosinase, gallic acid, etc.

As you are also in Europe, I would try this test they do in Spain where they take a DNA sample and effectively test what products and combinations of products will be effective against your hair loss. As this is personalized for you, you can minimize side effects, not experiment on yourself, and get a tailored made topical solution with the effective ingredients that work for you based on the results. My dr in Spain did it for about 250 euros. Its called TrichoTest.

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I mean that they aren´t a typical dye that you put on one day and it turns into the color you want, but rather it takes effect while you put it on for days. But I don’t think it regenerates the cells that produce melanin because then it wouldn’t be necessary to use it constantly. In any case, you can use it and inform us of the result, let’s hope it is effective.

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My hair loss is stopped since I use this together with daily minoxidil 7% self-made 5ml. Hair graying is not yet a problem, but as prevention I keep my zinc and copper levels in my blood at the high end

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It seems Dr Alan Bauman is working with Ralf Paus to develop a gray hair solution based on rapamycin:

“Dr. Bauman added, “While research is still ongoing regarding the role of rapamycin, a well tolerated compound known for its anti-aging properties, and its capacity for hair repigmentation and hair growth stimulation, the Bauman Gray Hair Protocol applies these insights, bringing us a step closer to a real and effective solution for gray hair.””

Dr Bauman doesn’t list a gray hair protocol on his website so could be worth reaching out find out more.

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People may be interested in this “Group Buy” of some new hair promoting agents:

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BMS-202 sounds really interesting because there’s a serious lack of anti-greying medication at the moment.

Agreed. And I’m less concerned about side-effects, etc. with a topical lotion. I think I may try it , perhaps add it to my formulation (a formulation similar to what Agetron has done).

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I have tried the GR7 product for the last 10 days and pleasantly surprised by the results. Hair does seem to be going back to the pre grey colour from the roots. Some gray hairs have now returned completely to a dark brown. Have reduced the application as was becoming too noticeable and would prefer a gradual return. Once you have got the colour you want then according to instructions it is a once a week application as colour loss occurs in 21 days. To date have avoided any hair dyes as did not like the ingredients and did not want to look like I had dyed my hair. Have tried other supplements including increasing cooper levels with not tangible improvement GR7 seems to be a good product for me so far to get a natural look I can control. Liquid is clear and does not dye hands or scalp in its application. Cost was £52 for the bottle and half through to get a change using it twice daily for 10 days. C

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Thoughts about how this might work on female hair?

Ha! Sorry, I know next to nothing about female hair. I know that women don’t have the same issue with hair loss as men, and any hair loss that women suffer from is likely a different mechanism than that which men lose hair by. In terms of hair pigmentation issues, that is likely the same in both sexes, so any drug or combination of drugs, that helps with hair pigmentation in men seems likely to help women also. Thats about as much as I can provide on that topic.

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Thanks! I meant pigmentation, and I should have said. Very kind of you to lay it out there. If you think it’s safe, I’m intrigued. (lots of respect for your assessments.)

I thought I would add a new photo to my record of change see below:

What is now clear to me is that there are three key dimensions relating to hair these are:

a) Where hair grows
b) Whether it is pigmented or not
c) Whether it is strong or weak.

The first two of these are dominated by epigenetic factors. My experience is that by increasing HDAC inhibition it is possible to grow hair in places where it would not otherwise grow.

Whether hair is pigmented or not is strongly affected by the levels of acetyl-CoA in the cells which form the hair follicle.

Whether the hair is strong or weak is dominated by mitochondrial efficiency. Men with pattern baldness (such as myself) find that their mitochondria in their hair follicles are affected by the Androgen Receptor causing some form of damage (probably oxidative) to the mitochondria in response to the stimulus of androgens.

Hence if you change these factors it becomes possible to get changes in the phenotype. What I have found is that by increasing levels of acetyl-CoA when a hair follicle starts in the anagen phase it produces a pigmented hair whereas with a lower level of acetyl-CoA it would produce an unpigmented hair.

If you take a hair follicle that was previously miniaturised as a consequence of mitochondrial damage and stimulate it to produce a hair (through any of the three approaches, acetyl-CoA, HDACi or mitochondrial improvements) first it is likely to produce a vellus hair. This is a really weak unpigmented hair. It results in the form of fuzz that @desertshores referred to. If you then improve the mitochondria this can turn into a terminal hair which is then a really fine pigmented hair. It is then possible, but hard, for this hair to become stronger. It is, however, likely to remain quite fine. However, when the hair follicle recycles at a later stage it may become stronger.

What is interesting is that is is rare that unpigmented hair will become pigmented (unless it is vellus hair turning terminal), but a recycling white follicle can produce pigmented hair.

I use a USB macro camera to monitor hair follicles and in this photo you can see different types of hair (vellus, terminal (fine), and full strength hairs) that have grown on my bald patch in recent times.

Because the camera is very close to the hairs the depth of focus is very small.

Obviously Rapamycin is one of the tools for improving mitochondrial efficiency.

I like hair as a tool for monitoring cellular development as it is relatively easy to see. Using the macro camera it is possible to monitor things like pore size, but when it comes to internal organs we are more reliant on biomarkers and the like.

This also carries forward to body hair.

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Thanks for your comment Colin. It finally encouraged me to take the plunge and order a bottle of GR-7. Just in case anyone else is interested, if you use the code Blueprint you get 7% off. Bryan is using it apparently.

The favorable review of GR7 prompted me to consider trying the product but when I looked at the ingredients I couldnt find anything that was convincing. I couldnt find any studies that showed restoration of color, and the ingredients seem to be the same ones used in other products, none of which claimed an anti-graying effect.

It may support healthy hair and If it werent so expensive I might have tried it anyway. I’ll wait for better evidence. I’m curious to see if others who use it report.anti graying.

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I must admit I am sceptical too but there seemed to be enough positivity around it for me to give it a shot. The only ingredient that piqued my interest was tyrosine. I started getting my first one or two grey hairs as a teenager so 40 years later I am pretty resigned to being grey. However I am willing to give this a go, even if it does turn out to be fifty quid down the drain. I will report back my results and I intend to take before and after photos for anyone interested.

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Can you provide a link to this source and product?

I have decided not to try any of these things specifically targeted on greying as I wish to ensure that I am hitting a core aging pathway which should have multiple effects and appears to have multiple effects. It does mean that hair does not become pigmented normally until the hair cycle starts a new anagen phase, but I know it is not a siding, but the main track.

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https://gr-7.uk/product/gr-7/

This is where I ordered from. I’m not sure whether there is a US distributor.

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Ingredients: Aqua, Isopropyl alcohol, Glycerine, Biotin, Ammonium Chloride, Inositol, Ammonium Acetate, Palmitic Acid, Polysorbate 20, Tyrosine, Burdock Root Extract, Articum Lappa, Gallic Acid, Sulphur, Horsetail Extract, Parfum.

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