Post arguments for or against people being able to live 1000+ years in good health, I’ll start with this 2010 article by Peter Singer.

In developed countries, aging is the ultimate cause of 90% of all human deaths; thus, treating aging is a form of preventive medicine for all of the diseases of old age. So, instead of targeting specific diseases associated with old age, shouldn’t we try to forestall or repair the physical damage caused by the aging process itself?

PRINCETON – On which problems should we focus research in medicine and the biological sciences? There is a strong argument for tackling the diseases that kill the most people –diseases like malaria, measles, and diarrhea, which kill millions in developing countries, but very few in the developed world.

Developed countries, however, devote most of their research funds to the diseases from which their citizens suffer, and that seems likely to continue for the foreseeable future. Given that constraint, which medical breakthrough would do the most to improve our lives?

If your first thought is “a cure for cancer” or “a cure for heart disease,” think again. Aubrey de Grey, Chief Science Officer of SENS Foundation and the world’s most prominent advocate of anti-aging research, argues that it makes no sense to spend the vast majority of our medical resources on trying to combat the diseases of aging without tackling aging itself. If we cure one of these diseases, those who would have died from it can expect to succumb to another in a few years. The benefit is therefore modest.

In developed countries, aging is the ultimate cause of 90% of all human deaths; thus, treating aging is a form of preventive medicine for all of the diseases of old age. Moreover, even before aging leads to our death, it reduces our capacity to enjoy our own lives and to contribute positively to the lives of others. So, instead of targeting specific diseases that are much more likely to occur when people have reached a certain age, wouldn’t a better strategy be to attempt to forestall or repair the damage done to our bodies by the aging process?

De Grey believes that even modest progress in this area over the coming decade could lead to a dramatic extension of the human lifespan. All we need to do is reach what he calls “longevity escape velocity” – that is, the point at which we can extend life sufficiently to allow time for further scientific progress to permit additional extensions, and thus further progress and greater longevity. Speaking recently at Princeton University, de Grey said: “We don’t know how old the first person who will live to 150 is today, but the first person to live to 1,000 is almost certainly less than 20 years younger.”

What most attracts de Grey about this prospect is not living forever, but rather the extension of healthy, youthful life that would come with a degree of control over the process of aging. In developed countries, enabling those who are young or middle-aged to remain youthful longer would attenuate the looming demographic problem of an historically unprecedented proportion of the population reaching advanced age – and often becoming dependent on younger people.

On the other hand, we still need to pose the ethical question: Are we being selfish in seeking to extend our lives so dramatically? And, if we succeed, will the outcome be good for some but unfair to others?

People in rich countries already can expect to live about 30 years longer than people in the poorest countries. If we discover how to slow aging, we might have a world in which the poor majority must face death at a time when members of the rich minority are only one-tenth of the way through their expected lifespans.

That disparity is one reason to believe that overcoming aging will increase the stock of injustice in the world. Another is that if people continue to be born, while others do not die, the planet’s population will increase at an even faster rate than it is now, which will likewise make life for some much worse than it would have been otherwise.

Whether we can overcome these objections depends on our degree of optimism about future technological and economic advances. De Grey’s response to the first objection is that, while anti-aging treatment may be expensive initially, the price is likely to drop, as it has for so many other innovations, from computers to the drugs that prevent the development of AIDS. If the world can continue to develop economically and technologically, people will become wealthier, and, in the long run, anti-aging treatment will benefit everyone. So why not get started and make it a priority now?

As for the second objection, contrary to what most people assume, success in overcoming aging could itself give us breathing space to find solutions to the population problem, because it would also delay or eliminate menopause, enabling women to have their first children much later than they can now. If economic development continues, fertility rates in developing countries will fall, as they have in developed countries. In the end, technology, too, may help to overcome the population objection, by providing new sources of energy that do not increase our carbon footprint.

The population objection raises a deeper philosophical question. If our planet has a finite capacity to support human life, is it better to have fewer people living longer lives, or more people living shorter lives? One reason for thinking it better to have fewer people living longer lives is that only those who are born know what death deprives them of; those who do not exist cannot know what they are missing.

De Grey has set up SENS Foundation to promote research into anti-aging. By most standards, his fundraising efforts have been successful, for the foundation now has an annual budget of around $4 million. But that is still pitifully small by the standards of medical research foundations. De Grey might be mistaken, but if there is only a small chance that he is right, the huge pay-offs make anti-aging research a better bet than areas of medical research that are currently far better funded.

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I plan on eventually leaving this universe so I do indeed want to live beyond 1000.

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Genesis chapter 6 settled this question. Attempts to become near immortal are simply foolishness.

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I would rather be a fool than dead.

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This will require reengineering of the human genome as it is hard to imagine that with any current intervention be it drugs or damage repair we can live much past 120. We will have to do it anyway as we spread to other planets and will need to adapt to live there.

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Yet… Genesis 5:27:

“So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty-nine years, and he died.”

Great Star Trek episode, Requiem for Methuselah - Wikipedia

Requiem for Methuselah” is the nineteenth episode of the third season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek. Written by Jerome Bixby and directed by Murray Golden, it was first broadcast on February 14, 1969.

In the episode, the crew of the Enterprise encounters an immortal human.

Its repeat broadcast, on September 2, 1969, was the last official telecast of the series to air on NBC. Star Trek immediately appeared in syndication on the following Monday, September 8, a full three years after its debut.

I would certainly have an interest in the Battle Star Galactica trope of humanoid Cylons resurrecting into new bodies. Although, even some Cylons had issues with their human makers - 2009 Battlestar Galactica episode “No Exit” (Season 4, Episode 15), humanoid Cylon, John Cavil delivers deeply a bitter monologue expressing his resentment toward his human creator (and this from a guy who can resurrect):

“I don’t want to be human! I want to see gamma rays, I want to hear X-rays, and I want to, I want to smell dark matter! I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me! I’m a machine, and I can know much more! I could experience so much more, but I’m trapped in this absurd body! Why? Why did you do this to me?”

To live long and spread through the universe humanity may need to “evolve” many different carriers of our consciousness, human, biological, machine, hybrid.

With sufficient time and treasure, nothing stands in the way of the essence of a particular human consciousness (again perhaps housed in non-biological forms) persisting through the life of the universe itself.

The season puts me in the mood of reverie.

“Anything that is not forbidden by the laws of physics is achievable, given the right knowledge.”

“The Beginning of Infinity”:

  • David Deutsch
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I disagree. I think the problem is that the genome stops functioning correctly. Arguably then you are right in that is a fault in the genome. However, I think it can be fixed without changing the genome.

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Only if I could have the body of a 20-30-year-old and have multiple love affairs and good friends.

There is nothing in my life that was as satisfying as the love affair with my wife. But, even then, the flame dies over decades. It would be wonderful to repeat this over and over. There is nothing as satisfying as a good love affair and having good friendships.

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Argument against it - if you get life in prison. 1000 years of incarceration !

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I feel like laws would change if such treatments were readily available. Someone who committed murder can be considered rehabilitated after 100 years or so unless they continue to pose a threat.

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Murder is more significant if people live longer

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Probably not safe to assume anything would be the same if we had the technology to live that long.

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You will just get shipped to a planet far away from earth.

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I don’t think it’s any of my business how long other people “should” or “shouldn’t” live. And honestly, my opinion isn’t going to make any difference in what ends up happening, anyway.

As for myself, I guess I’d want to live for a long time . . . but who knows? When I was 25, I couldn’t even comprehend how an elderly person might think “okay, I’ve lived long enough. I’m ready to go.” Now that I’m 47, though, I’m starting to understand how that frame of mind could be possible for me, too.

Something to consider: I’ve probably already forgotten most of the days I’ve lived (or I’m mis-remembering and filling in the blanks). Even at age 47, memories from longer than 25 years ago are pretty hazy.

Can you imagine if “half a lifetime” wasn’t 50 years, but 500 years? Or 1,000 years? Or 10,000 years? You’d remember so little about your first century that you’d effectively be an entirely different person, anyway.

One last thought: even if you could stop aging and disease, you’d be hard pressed to avoid deadly accidents, catastrophies and homicide for longer than half a dozen centuries (unless, of course, you put your mind into a more durable bucket. But do you really want that?)

I just spent nine minutes of my life typing this, and I won’t ever get them back. :upside_down_face:

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Interesting, I remember high school, 50 years ago, like it was yesterday.

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Relatedly, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTKDgrdvdg

Great idea, colonize Mars. It will be next the Australia.

Memories with strong emotions are recalled more easily. I don’t remember what I ate for lunch yesterday or what color socks I am wearing right now but I’ll never forget all the times I almost died or held my newborn children or stood on top of a big peak. My high school memories did not hold up as well as yours.

What surprises me is how often old memories pop into my head for no obvious reason.

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Should a person live to 1,000? It depends. I think there are certain qualities one might want to have if living for 1,000 years. An ability to let go of the past for sure, not forgetting it so much as not letting it define you. One would need to be able to tolerate the transient nature of natural events and human relationships. The only certainty in the span of 1,000 years is that things do not stay the same, so one would need fortitude to adapt well. Varied interests and goals would be helpful. The ability to be self-sufficient and content within one’s own mind. A variety of reliable means of income to suit whatever is encountered. Personally I have many things I would like to learn yet and not enough time. It would be nice not to have to be so selective and to know I would have time enough for them all. I was thinking 75 years might be nice but I’d be much happier with 1,000. I am not worried about not being who I was, I believe I am a new person anyhow every Planck unit of time that goes by.

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Two VC’s argue against life extension (though okay with some life extension, healthspan), but they don’t want coercion someone taking away anyone’s life extension technologies.

Is there a beef between the pro-natalists and life extensionists?