#169

And yet, no link to a published “systemic review” study was provided in the “news” article. Shocking!

Also no link to the supposedly “peer reviewed study” in the second “news” article. Double shocking!

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#170

I know most of you don’t want to talk politics and I understand that. It is contentious and we’d rather talk about other things.
But….i hope you all are looking ant the bigger picture of our world and how it impacts our lives, even when in comes to longevity.
The overall poor health of the population dictates where all the money goes, instead of going to longevity.
Most people are worried about more important things than longevity.
Our right to free speech is in danger and with that goes talking about fringe ideas like longevity.
One person’s truth is another person’s fake news, but we all deserve to hear it all.

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#171

Is it? That claim sounds like a political talking point to “fire up the base”.

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#172

No we don’t. This is private property.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tscc3e5eujrsEeFN4/well-kept-gardens-die-by-pacifism

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#173

Free speech might be in danger, but then again it depends on our definitions. Speech seems pretty free in the U.S. at least, but a lot of those who claim free speech is in danger seem to mean “you have to provide your platform for my speech”. Free speech doesn’t mean a private business needs to furnish you with free printing machines. Provide your own. Just because some private platform doesn’t want to publish your favorite conspiracy theory, time cube and perpetual motion machine musings doesn’t mean your speech is being suppressed. You are always free to stand on the proverbial street corner.

And well, there’s always been limits on free speech - “don’t yell FIRE in a crowded theater” and so on. The devil is in the details. Some speech is deemed “screaming fire” in one place but not another - hate speech laws. Personally, I’m a free speech absolutist to the degree that it’s practical, and knotty problems remain… what of the protestors who want to yell at a guest speaker, thus suppressing the speaker’s speech (hello, U.S. college campuses), two speeches collide, or a time and a place? That leads to “free speech zones” out of sight, out of mind - not too dissimilar as when a controversial point of view is not published by a private business journal, thus exiling you to some obscure street corner. It’s complicated, but please show me an era and a place where free speech was in better shape than in the contemporary U.S.

P.S. KarlT: this post was unedited by ChatGPT on the grounds of free speech :slight_smile:

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#174

Locking this thread. Covid is probably not worth discussing here as it degenerates into a political conflagration.

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#175