Jonas
#1
Urolithin A (UA), from berries and pomegranates, boosts muscle and heart function by activating SIRT1, a longevity protein. It has a similar lifespan increase to Rapamycin (Brian Kennedy, NSU). One of 4 promising agents that he is working on (Dec 23)
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Interesting that the lower dose of Urolithin A was better for flies.
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SNK
#3
Does anyone know if there is any study of a certain substance or medication that was studied in fruit flies and then worked in similar way in humans?. I thought we only bear resemblance with mammals, or is it that fruit flies have similar biology with us?
It depends on the molecular pathway. Some are carried forward in evolution, (like mTOR and the IGF1 pathways, from flies to mice to humansā¦). But others much less so.
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Lowroad
#5
Is there a more affordable source than Mitopure? It is so expensive. Saw a cheaper option on Amazon, but do not know the purity and reliabilityā¦
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aeternum-UA-Urolithin-Powder-30g/dp/B0BX3QJJD7
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Mitopure has a boatload of patents around the compoundā¦ so weāll see how the competitive landscape develops ā¦ there are Chinese companies selling the raw materialā¦ but I wonder about the quality, and how long a company could be expected to resell supplements (in the USA) without legal challengesā¦
Patents
MitopureĀ® is the culmination of over 15 years of rigorous scientific research and millions of dollars in investment. We have employed the highest scientific standards and gone to great lengths to ensure that Mitopure is safe, effective, and proprietary.
List of Mitopure Patents (in different countries)
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Is there a way to improve gut microbiome production of urolithin A?
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I think there isā¦
Research shows that the production of UA can vary between individuals because of differences in the microbiome responsible for breaking down ellagitannins. Ellagitannins are a type of polyphenol found in certain foods. When these foods like berries, pomegranates, and nuts are fermented by gut bacteria, they transform into UA. However, not everyone has a microbiome that can produce UA.
In this article, we are going to focus on a study by Singh et al. (2021), which studied the prevalence of UA producers in a healthy population and whether supplementation with UA can overcome the dietary and microbial barriers to its production and subsequent health benefits.
Research:
Bifidobacterium pseudocatenulatum INIA P815: The first bacterium able to produce urolithins A and B from ellagic acid
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.2c08889
Gut Bacteria Involved in Ellagic Acid Metabolism To Yield Human Urolithin Metabotypes Revealed
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1756464618301324
In vivo administration of gut bacterial consortia replicates urolithin metabotypes A and B in a non-urolithin-producing rat model
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2023/fo/d2fo03957e
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Fantastic article. Interesting connection to akkermansia
ā What was of significance was that high producers of UA had an increased abundance of Akkermansia muciniphila. An increase in this bacterium in the presence of pomegranate ellagitannins was also seen in an earlier study by Henning et al[vii].ā
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SNK
#13
Interesting, wasnāt aware that fruit flies had mTOR and the IGF1 pathways similar to humansā¦.
I think Matt Kaeberlein did some of the early work on yeast and mTOR / Rapamycinā¦
The amino acid sensitive TOR pathway from yeast to mammals
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014579306005084
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Since Urolithin A also works on MTOR, wonāt it be the same effect as Rapamycin? You may end up impeding MTOR too much if you combine both treatments. Thatād be similar to a higher dose of Rapamycin which may not be good?
Just thinking out loud hereā¦ Can someone prove me wrong?
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Goran
#16
Have been taking Urolithin A for a couple of months now, feel nothing from it. Rapamycin 6mg weekly however, I feel. Urolithin A is probably quite a weak Mtor inhibitor like Resveratrol. I would not be concerned.
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If I had a mitochondrial problem Iād try it. But Iām not paying a lot for chemicals that donāt provide an effect I can feel or see a big impact in my biomarkers (blood or other).
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Maybe Rapamycin is so potent it overshadows the benefits of Urolithin A. Either way, itās too expensive for me to take regularly, so I wonāt be adding it to my stack.
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Codeage Liposomal Urolithin A Supplementā$3/day.
https://a.co/d/6ohXn5x
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Jonas
#20
Personally rapamycin is the most āenergizingā stack for me amongst the 10 or 12 things that I routat now and then.
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