How long until India is targeted too?

Get your meds while you can.

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European pharmaceutical companies are sending shipments to the USA before tarrifs.

http://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/trump-tariff-threats-prompt-some-drugmakers-expedite-shipments-us-2025-03-27/

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I think a better title is “US tariffs Targets Foreign Pharmaceuticals”

  1. It’s a democracy.
  2. It’s more than one person making the decisions.
  3. Would you think the title “Biden Targets Foreign Pharmaceuticals” wouldn’t be unnecessary? (If the opposite is = it’s now as well).
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If you call 2 people making the decisions a democracy, I guess.

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Goes under the definition, yes.

Maybe drug holiday gets a new meaning for USA citizens. (pun intended)

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1.Yes. So what?
2.No. There is no evidence that anyone else with decision making power made the decision to start a tariff war. All evidence points to it being DJT’s longstanding obsession which he now got to realize. The U.S. Democracy has a long track record of unitary decisions of presidents with profound consequences.
3.No. If JB made such a decision, or more importantly even if he only approved such a decision made by others, it would be absolutely fair and appropriate to call it with his name. There is a well known adage expressed by Harry Truman: “The buck stops here”. It would be absurd to have a profound history changing decision undertaken by an administration where the president disavows named association because it was one of his underlings who undertook such a decision all by his lonesome self, outside the purview of an absent minded Chief Executive. It will be named after the Chief Executive, as it absolutely should be.

DJT owns this, fully, 100%, and History will be the judge.

Meanwhile, good advice above: get your meds while you can. The issue are not the tariffs. The issue will be that in order to execute the tariffs, customs will have to stop and inspect shipments. And since these shipments are not legally fully allowed, it will be up to the arbitrary discretion of some functionary.

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Regarding customs having to stop and inspect shipments…

I was just telling my husband that I’m working on some international orders (non-medical, too). He thinks the issue may not be as big as I expect, assuming there probably won’t be many customs agents available to handle much of anything.

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Seems like the focus is turning towards India.

I’d stock up a 2-4 year supply of your most expensive medicines before tarrifs hit hard.

It’s not so much the tarrifs as the customs seizures. But both could be painful.

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That seems plausible since the administration keeps laying off portions government employees. Expect slowdowns.

Anecdotally, what I’m seeing is more delays in deliveries from China, and also more reships. Many companies have had to change freighters to adapt. We’ll see if that’s effective in 1 or 2 months.

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Nothing contreversial with putting Trump’s name here. These are Trump’s tariffs, just like Obamacare was Obama’s medical reform plan. In both cases, we understand that this was a whole government policy effort, spearheaded by the sitting president at the time.

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Yes, ish is about to hit the fan when it comes to India. Better get your meds in ASAP, before you are left high and dry. I have two orders going out tomorrow. That’s my SOP - I put in the same order with two different vendors, hoping that at least one of them comes through, and if both do, then I don’t mind the extra. The question is how much to accumulate. Most meds have an expiration date that’s somewhat arbitrary - I see the stuff from India with 2-3 year expiration dates. The key is going to be storage - low temps, dark and dry (mini fridge etc.). Worst case scenario is going to be 4-6 years. It’s not just a single presidential term, because once a tariff war gets going, it’s not easy to wind it down and reverse course, so it might be up to 6+ years. Now, being an eternal optimist, I kind of suspect no more than 2-3 years of this nonsense before they’ll have to reverse course, but it’s better to be prepared in case things don’t work out. Availability is of course the biggest problem, but prices might be an issue too - remember, even the meds which are produced here in the U.S., have ingredients which are imported from abroad, places like China. This can all translate into rising prices. It’s going to be neither cheap nor easy to pursue longevity :smiling_face_with_tear:.

The other big issue is going to be the safety of your drugs. With massive firings from the FDA and other regulatory agencies, it’s already slowed down testing, certification and approvals of both food and drugs. This also will translate into slower approvals of new drugs as the current workload of the experts at FDA has doubled according to reports and they have openly stated that they can no longer adhere to the 180 day schedules that were the norm. So, if your empagliflozin is produced in Germany, you might be safer if things really go south with regulatory and enforcement agencies.

Bottom line, as the popular meme says “winter is coming”. Be prepared. Start with accumulating key stuff, but also develop a plan B and also plan C - what happens when your old ways of getting your meds no longer work? Do you have alternative ways that are going to be effective? The environment might become quite hostile - routes from India might shut down, but the alternative may not be Canada, as that too might shut down. You have to seriously re-think where your supply chain vulnerabilities are. Plan A, B, C. Best of luck everybody!

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Like I said, drug prices in the US are going up:

Mark Cuban warns Trump’s tariffs mean his Cost Plus Drugs ‘won’t have a choice’ but to raise prices

Stocking up may be wise,

I put in two orders yesterday - will have to see if it comes through customs.

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Had a person ask me the other day if tariffs would affect our business. We just don’t know for sure yet. I replied that if there are tariffs that “affect” us, it will be the customer that pays, not the vendor.

The only way we “pay” is if we would need to adjust our price to remain competitive with a US based company. If we remain competitive without a price decrease on our end, then the customer/end user is the only one who pays.

Plus the gov has to increase their bureaucracy to collect the tariffs. Good jobs for all those fired by the Musky one.

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Like I was saying, there will be fewer food and drug inspections. Probably wise to stock up on drugs while they’re still under the more reliable regulations.

FDA planning for fewer food and drug inspections due to layoffs, officials say

“Senior Food and Drug Administration leaders are planning for cutbacks to the number of routine food and drug inspections conducted by the agency, multiple officials say, due to steep layoffs this week in support staff.“

The Expert Who Kept Eye Drops From Blinding You Was Fired Yesterday

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POSSIBLY GOOD NEWS!!!

At least in the short term. You still have a window of time. The tariff exemptions means that it makes especial sense to stock up while you still can, before possible reversal in the future.

Pharma tariff relief likely short-lived with sector-specific duties on the horizon

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I’m not sure if this affects small package shipments to the US; has anyone looked into it?

India says studying impact of 27% US tariff, vows to push trade deal

NEW DELHI, April 3 (Reuters) - India said on Thursday it was studying the impact of the 27% tariff slapped by the U.S. on its imports and vowed to push for a trade deal this year, signalling a conciliatory tone despite failing to get relief from President Donald Trump’s trade policy.

New Delhi’s response came hours after Trump announced the drastic tariffs that piled more stress on an ailing global economy and sent world stock markets and oil prices tumbling.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-slaps-26-tariff-india-amid-ongoing-bilateral-trade-talks-2025-04-03/

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Highly likely

https://x.com/typesfast/status/1907605891836420363

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Yes, de minimis is going away, probably end of May but maybe not until end of June. I’m hoping they make an exception for Canada :slight_smile:

Regardless of that, it doesn’t stop shipping, just adds cost for the consumer.

Shipping with DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid) or DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) will still be happening as it always has. The consumer will pay the vendor in advance, who will then remit to the gov or the consumer pays the government upon arrival.

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