#1

Admittedly I keep wondering if at a moment in time some or many of us won’t have access to meds from India anymore, such as Rapa. At least where I live, even smaller amounts of Rapa that are bought for personal use, will get confiscated. And perhaps I’m overthinking this (if I do, sorry and please close this topic Rapadmin), but I keep thinking AI will further change the ways packages are scanned and processed in the future, also including more advanced detection techniques.

It’s one of the reasons I’ve started to resort to stock piling (freezing Rapa). But that makes me concerned that the potency of the Rapa will decrease, and I will have no clue up to what extent unless I will test it repeatedly.

Does anyone else share these concerns, or what are your thoughts on this? Do others stock pile for this reason, and what are your thoughts about the potential decrease in potency with time?
Thanks a lot.

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#2

I ended up with a lot of Rapamycin that is stored in my refrigerator. I was hoping to use it to treat my father-in-law’s cancer with a daily dose. Unfortunately, that never happened (he couldn’t handle more than 1 mg daily), so I have a few years of supply.

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#3

I don’t worry about this. India is a population of a billion people, lots of entrepreneurs who are willing and able to sell medicines, and ship them out. I don’t see AI changing any of this any time soon. And, the prices in the US have dropped so much that for people in the US it seems it may not make sense to import from India; just buy through regular chanels with a prescription.

For some countries, its already difficult to get rapamycin and that probably won’t change in the short term, but eventually doctors will start prescribing it and it will become available.

And, you can always travel to Turkey or India if you want to stock up. I don’t worry about this at all.

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#4

May I ask the brand you purchased from India is Zydus? Thanks

#5

Yes. I bought Zydus.

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#7

Where do you live and is that already happening?

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#8

Where do you live and is that already happening?

Yes, repeatedly - EU.

#9

Thanks Rapadmin. I assume the situation is a bit different in the US.
Indeed, there are plenty of entrepreneurs/small companies willing to sell & ship medicines. That’s not what I’m concerned about; it’s the receiving end that I’m concerned about.

I’m sorry to say but imho this is an overly optimistic suggestion for a variety of countries. Doctors here risk losing their licence for off-label prescription; legislation here leaves no doubt about this, and in fact has been tightening the past years/decade. There’s a standard protocol that is followed, and for aforementioned reasons it’s very rare for any doctor to deviate from that. When I see members here getting a CAC test whenever they like, I’m frankly amazed. Only in very specific/limited circumstances such tests are prescribed here, to give but an example.

#10

Yes - that may be the case. The EU is definitely less receptive to new potential longevity interventions like rapamycin. I know from people’s comments here that its hard to get, and could get harder to get, its hard to predict.

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#11

DeStrider, I’m very sorry to hear about the loss of your father-in-law.

Concerning the rapa that you keep stored in the refrigerator, have you considered storing it in the freezer rather than the fridge? This should reduce potency degradation, if stored at ~ -20C. Albeit admittedly I’m concerned about freeze-thaw cycles. (I’ve approached the manufacturer of my freezer about this, but I have hesitations about the answer I received.)

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#12

While I think you’re right that over time, technology allows levels of surveillance that would be too hard to do previously, I think we’re still a ways off from that being a practical concern here.

My hope is that we have access to India at least until rapa and longevity become more mainstream and easier to get in the US from traditional sources.

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