#1

Increasingly, I’m seeing paywall programs that I have subscribed to – some with a lifetime membership – follow a newly devised path to remove part of what you were promised when you subscribed to and sell it separately for an additional premium.

Isn’t this a bit of what Attia is doing with his new $2,500 “Early” program? The language of what you get from this program mirrors his words throughout his annual subscription; i.e., information to help you develop a state of the science personal longevity program.

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#2

$2,500 :laughing: uber lulz sorry

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#3

I haven’t paid a penny yet on thousands of videos watched on YouTube on the subject. Yeah, I’d pay him $5-10/year though to have him do the research and narrow it down for us, but $2500??? Don’t think so. LOL

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#4

I like Peter Attia, and I do listen to his podcasts, though increasingly fewer as he ranges further and further away from his original mission statement regarding life extension. I’m sorry, but I personally am not the audience for archery, deer culling, celebrity actor interviews, car racing, “leadership” baloney etc. Come to think of it, I rarely listen - and very selectively - these days.

And while I like PA, I do not trust him to synthesize key insights wrt. longevity based on studies. I think he fails fundamentally, for example with diet, relative emphasis on key drivers of aging, precise weight of exercise as an intervention and so on. I therefore see frankly no added value that could come from this $2500.

And really it is not even about money. I spend multiples of that on health each year, and if I perceive value, I don’t hesitate to drop considerable funds, as $ do me no good if I’m dead. But I don’t perceive $2500 worth of value from PA’s insights. I read his book; meh; for me, it wasn’t worth its price, but that’s my evaluation based on what I already know.

Ultimately I must do my own research anyway, and so would never rely on PA to do it for me. YMMV.

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#5

i keep saying it over and over, these podcasters inevitably run out of new information at some point to talk about. Science, groundbreaking science still operates at a pace not concordant with the pace of daily news. So these podcasters find tangential topics to widen their reach, and then they all start turning into the same person. They all start saying the same things, interviewing the same people. Whoever goes on Attia will go on Huberman will go on Patrick will go on. It’s all the same in the end.

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#6

Thankfully none of these criticisms apply to rapamycin.news :wink:

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#7

Yep! I used to watch all of their episodes and now that I’ve discovered this podcast bro trend, I am much more selective. For better or worse, YOU ALL are now my ‘podcast’ for health!

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#8

Correct, the health / longevity information/infomercial cycle. Same play book the legacy media uses

Repeat, eventually the masses will accept and believe.

Beyond Edward Bernays procedures, wait when AI is in full operation.

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#9

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who’s gonna call it? podisticians

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#10

As I have posted before;

All should review the classical three essays / book by Edward Bernays;

Crystallizing Public Opinion

Propaganda

The Engineering of Consent

If you truly understand the three documents, you will clearly see how the masses / populace are controlled.

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#11

And not to start a political fight here (not engaging), so many have moved to texas for tax reasons (the ones who can afford not to), and they are all friends, it worries me how they influence so many people because I don’t share their values.

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#12

I have posted this link before.

In my view this is what is already here.

Review…

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#13

Yup, hid podcasts are suffering from mission creep and I can’t find too many that I wat to listen to. His book was worth a read, I like the aging decathlon theory - the training for life idea definitely inspired me to spend more time doing weights, stability, stretching… I even started doing Y(uck)oga in addition to cycling and running (cardio). I definitely feel better, less stiffness, more flexibility. He did punt the diet section and rest of the book was ok.

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#14

lol you caught me. it’s where i moved to but for different reasons.

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#15

I enjoyed reading here the many and varied response to my irritation with Peter Attia. I have learned much from Attia via his free and paywall podcasts and I recognize his deep expertise in some areas related to longevity.

I hope some of our comments will make it back to his social media team and, in that vein, I offer these constructive thoughts.

For whatever reason, Attia he wanders far from his expertise at times. His podcast addressing organic foods was embarrassingly uninformed and on one occasion, ignorant, as he went on for some time minimizing the impact of the “pesticide” glyphosate. It was not a case of misspeaking; he called it a pesticide repeatedly. As already mentioned, his judgments on the role of nutrition in longevity is uninformed and shortsighted in several ways. Also already mentioned, I did not sign up to hear him speak on leadership or psychology where his amateur views are no doubt interesting to some but not top of the class. I still appreciate it when he drills deeply into topics such as the biochemistry of lipids and would suggest to him that the same is possible with respect to nutrition and supplements were he to take the time to integrate them into his framework.

Bottom line for me, his decision to forgo previous commitments and unbundle his services rolling back those commitments remains disappointing even as I’m sure he has developed a justification.

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#16

HA, well, I am an east coast girl who married a Texan and lived there for 8 years.

I just have a beef with Texas over taking choice away… pun intended. I am a big baby and hold a grudge :slight_smile:

Having said that, I absolutely get why people are flocking there from CA (where I am now) for a more reasonable cost of living because it’s next to impossible to afford this place! The podcast bros and other Silicon Valley types are a different story :slight_smile:

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#17

I confess, that love California despite its myriad problems, and even my Los Angeles (the horror!). Nothing against Texas, just that California is as good as it gets (for me!), when it comes to the climate (at least SoCal, where I spend most of the time). The physical beauty and variety, mountains, beaches, deserts, forests we got it all. Yes, terrible problems too, so I’m not surprised many want to leave… what I find tiresome are all the folks who absolutely hate it here and spew their hatred nonstop - why don’t you leave, it’s not forbidden, hey Texas, Idaho and other places are fine too, why stay where you hate it. But I might be dumb, because I tend to like it wherever I am, and I’ve lived in many countries (mostly Europe).

I think PA moved to Austin, but then recently I got the impression he left there too(?).

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#18

I’m with you. It’s not perfect, but I feel very fortunate I can be here. I always say there is a ridiculous surcharge on heaven :slight_smile:

Having said that, I just spent a few days in Pasadena and loved it. Your weather is definitely superior!!! And as a vegan, the food was a dream come true :slight_smile:

I worship the east coast too, but after you have lived without knowing where your winter gear is for this long, it would be hard to go back full time. If not for the weather, that is probably where I’d be.

Yes, PA moved from SoCal to Austin. I hadn’t heard he left but no idea? I know he/lex/rogan/ferris have tried to get huberman to go.

I hear Memphis is wonderful. I have friends who love Sun Valley, too.

Nicest people I’ve ever met were in TX, but I could not deal with the heat. We bought here after the summer that was 100 days in a row over 100 degrees… I said UNCLE, I’m out! :slight_smile:

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Other than the southeast, I’ve lived in the major regions in the US but more in the west, which I love. Even though it is more expensive than other states in the west, I love California. You can see the future there. Largest GDP in the US and fifth largest in the world if it were a nation. I would live there again if I could find ideal property, ideally 10 acres north of Pointe Reyes, far enough east to be in the forest. Even though it has acquired a bad rap of late, I like San Francisco too. In the 1980’s we had a flat on Green Street in Pac Heights. Kitchen view of the bridge if you stood in the right spot by the window.

#20

10 acres in the forest up there sounds dreamy! Where are you now?

I’ve been in a condo in SF that looks out at the bridge and it’s magical! Lucky you.