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It seems Trump is starting a crackdown on online drug sales to stop the import of fentanyl. While this is a noble cause, it may negatively impact the importation of legal medicine. You may want to stock up before customs starts cracking down. I just ordered my next year’s supply of meds and thinking of bumping it up to 2!

This is a canary in the coal mine for me:

President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team has invited five major tech companies, including Meta, Google and Microsoft, to a meeting in mid-December about dealing with the sale of drugs online, The Information reported Sunday, citing a person with direct knowledge of the correspondence.

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#2

You might get tariffs. He has been talking about this.

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#3

Seems like there’s a new thread that will become political every day after the previous one gets locked. How about we avoid all of those threads and stick to DIY longevity medicine, which is what most people here will only be able to change their situation with anyway?

#4

This thread is about DIY medicine as @DeStrider only suggested people to order now before potential restrictions. That’s not political.

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#5

I didn’t say is political – that will become political.

It keeps happening time and time again.

#6

We shouldn’t avoid essential topics such as this one.

To everyone: don’t get political and stick to the facts.

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#7

There is also the threat of 100% tariffs on BRICS member countries if they refuse to commit to not creating a new currency or supporting another currency that would replace the dollar. India is a member.

I agree it is a good time to consider increasing your stock reserves.

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#8

All Day Chemist is in Singapore. Not Brics, but still goes through customs.

#9

The company might be registered in Singapore but products seem to be originally from India, not Singapore, and their customer support team seems to be Russian.

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#10

Confirmed: “Being an Indian pharmacy, we believe that all individuals deserve a healthy life at affordable prices.”

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#11

I’ve said it SO many times on other places, but #CanadaReallyIsTheFuture

In the worst case scenario, you may still be able to import to a friend in Canada…

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#12

The meeting with tech companies was about traffickers using social media to distribute. It’s really easy to find closed Facebook groups selling AAS and everything else you can imagine. This doesn’t have anything to do with our Indian friends.

Now, there’s also a lot of effort in Congress to curb/eliminate de minimus imports that largely escape customs inspections and completely escape duty because of the $800 exemption. Several versions of bills have been undergoing refinement for a couple years already in the House and the Senate, and Biden issued a related executive order few weeks ago. All of these proposed changes are all aimed at China, not India, and impact large, bulk imports of packages (pallets) that are broken apart and reshipped once they land in the US. Customs has no idea what’s really in them since they just get passed right through. De minimus changes are much more likely to impact bulk shipments of peptides and AAS than single packs from India. If you’re a peptide user, this is what you might worry about.

Bigger concerns for us would be (1) widespread rollout of the types of machines TSA uses at airports, (2) changes in FDA policy. Customs doesn’t really care about non-scheduled drugs in small amounts and they don’t have the bandwidth to search everything. When we get hit with seizures it’s luck of the draw and they’re looking for controlled substances, not cholesterol meds.

In this video, a customs agent talks about screening and de minimus. Fast forward to the guy with the moustache. There’s a q&a at the end.

And here are logistics folks trying to figure out the potential impacts.

Edit: the first YouTube link should work but it’s not showing the preview here.

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#13

Don’t hold a lot of hope up for that. Many Canadians have reported here in our forums that CanadaPost is much more diligent at identifying imported medicines than the USA is (at least currently) - so the intercept rate is much higher in Canada.

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#14

Ok, if worst really comes to worst then, what’s 2nd best place to import into? Roatan? Bahamas? Puerto Rico? [yes it’s US territory but the probabilities still shift]. One of the zuvillage pop-up cities? (with their very active telegram chats?) Great Britain?

One has to do a really active discussion of this across the telegram chats… [post on zuzalu and vitalia TGs]

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#15

I have an idea for a location for pop-up city, without customs restrictions.

North Sentinel Island:

Positives:

  • Near India, for shipping generics there
  • No customs
  • Close to tourists hotspots
  • Relatively small, can walk across the entire island in one day
  • Tropical climate, beaches, and refreshments from coconut trees

Negatives:

  • Possible hostile indigenous population
  • It can get really warm and humid in the summer, so seasonality is a problem
  • Jake got a foot infection last time he was going to scout, so antibiotics is a must
  • Airbnb ratings are abnormally low for the hotel in the area.

The weather can really get bad there apparently, so it’s probably not that great of a location, but at least here’s a template to work on next time we get on Zoom, to decide whether it’s a good one. LMK what you guys think.

Sent from my iPhone

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#16

From the Airbnb reviews:

Came to North Sentinel Island last month for a weeklong vacation. The photos do not do this place justice, it is even prettier in person!! We stayed at the only resort there, which is kind of just a section of beach on the atoll. The rooms did not even require keys and the staff almost just melted into the background, they were so quiet and non-existant. Our beds had these weird crabs in them and, I must say the sand got a little annoying. 2 stars for the resort. 4 stars for the health center because the swimming pool almost just felt like swimming in the ocean. 5 stars for the quiet, almost seemed deserted. 0 stars for internet access. The hotel wifi did not even show up on my phone, and my battery died since the plugs here look like an empty hole. Sorry North Sentinel Island, you better up your game next time if you want visitors.

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#17

For those of you who don’t know, North Sentinelese kill their visitors and it is illegal to go there. This is a joke.

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#18

it’s slightly encouraging that elon musk just tweeted that the #1 most important thing to do is to reduce the price of GLP1 agonists and they would do more than anything for the healthcare system, given that customs tightening might make it especially much harder to get GLP agonists offshore…

https://x.com/aryelipman/status/1866919344024010851

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#19

Elon Musk himself stated that he is (or was) taking one, so that’s encouraging.

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#20

Gotta give people second chances. But I wouldn’t go. Flaming arrows whizzing past might be a tourist experience unlike any other, but… maybe one of the last ones for those who experience it. Best case scenario you turn into Colonel Kurtz.

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